Are you on some spectrum or something?
You sound like the kind of person who, at a social gathering, when someone says "I hate it when the toast falls to the floor with the jam side down" would go on to a speech about how hate is so negative and you should make the toast on the floor a positive experience.
And when, in an attempt to get away, they ask you what the time is, you would try to teach them how to make a clock ... which is always a useful skill.
The OP is interested in playing golf, not in learning Arduino.
Look, I am beginning to learn Arduino myself; I think it is useful and entertaining... for me. I do not try to shove my own things down other people's throats because I do not want golfers telling me how great golf is. And any golfer who tries to talk me into golf, their religion or any other cult, like Linux or Apple, I am going to walk away from. Microcontroller guys can be as bad as other types of fanatics.
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Are you on some spectrum or something?
- I don't know what you mean by this.
You sound like the kind of person who, at a social gathering, when someone says "I hate it when the toast falls to the floor with the jam side down" would go on to a speech about how hate is so negative and you should make the toast on the floor a positive experience.
-Hmm, OK, No, i'm the kind of person at parties that if that happened, i would say "don't worry about it, Just get another one".
However what you said is hardly toast,
YOU SAID :
"And I hate it when people come in and propose a microcontroller for something which very clearly does not require a microcontroller"
You also said you are new to Arduino programming.
well mate, you then lack the experience to know what is VERY CLEARLY required or not. You see what is clear to you now about Arduino will not be
the same thing 2 years from now.
but you do seem to have a degree of hate within you, Even your comment back to me shows that. My comment was not one of HATE, but of ADVICE.
My comment to you was not hateful but more so a comment of explanation. and let's be honest, you really should have picked up on that.
Your reply was not toast on the floor, Your reply was an expression that you don't seem to like when people do things that you don't agree with. There also seems to be a them with "Cults" for you.
Let me ask you something , Re this
And I hate it when people come in and propose a microcontroller for something which very clearly does not require a microcontroller
- But Why ? , Why can't someone just come in and say "Use Arduino for that, it's so cool" ?
Say they are a newb and know little to nothing. why can't they put forward the idea ? Why does that upset you ?
Ideas, lead to other ideas. THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING ON THIS FORUM. To stop people from doing that is to defeat the purpose of this forum.
I know a guy at Rigol who has said to me multiple times , regarding Dave on a scope review
"I hate it when dave picks on the fonts of the scope being different"
But Why ? Dave is expressing his opinion , and IT'S A VALID POINT
I remember when dave was tearing down (i think) MSO5000 , he gets to the PCB and it says "Innovation or nothing" and dave says
"Nothing with a LOWER CASE N" LOL. That's an opinion , and i agree "nothing" should be Uppercase N for the record.
But mate, even stupid ideas can lead to smart ideas down the track, but in this case an arduino is not a stupid idea, it's not necessarily necessary for his application, but it doesn't hurt to recommend it
Also the world is not binary , RE this comment
The OP is interested in playing golf, not in learning Arduino.
- No the O.P. is interested in electronics, Arduino is part of electronics.
The choices are not.. GOLF or NO GOLF, People are not binary nor is life. and CLEARLY he is a guy who thinks outside of the box.
CLEARLY he is a guy who is interested in the finer detail, you can see this by the way he pays attention to the dispenser falling out
of alignment with the "T" after a few dispenses. Basically, he is asking for ideas to be thrown out and that's what the forum did
so.. some of say Arduino
You and other say.. You don't need that.
Fine... Throw the ideas out, Let him play with the ideas and pick which one he likes, because thats' what he asked off us.
As for this (Just quickly),
And when, in an attempt to get away, they ask you what the time is, you would try to teach them how to make a clock ... which is always a useful skill.
- You're being stupid, and .. You know you are.
But the sarcasm also shows the hate that you have . Mate, Are you young ? How old are you approx. (to the closest 5 years).
You sound young and when you are young you tend to have hate for everything, Things tend to bug you all the time if they are not in alignment with what you want them to be. LEARN TO ACCEPT THAT LIFE AND PEOPLE ARE THE WAY THEY ARE.
Moving forward from that dumb comment
Look, I am beginning to learn Arduino myself;
- GREAT, and as such your job should be TO LEARN AND LISTEN. I myself am not new to it.
But especially if you are new you need to recognize you don't have enough experience yet and have not consumed enough of the topic
to perhaps know what we are doing here.
As i said, You were technically correct, but.. there are also reasons why me and others are saying what we are saying and you need to recognize that, but irrespective of if you know or not, HATING the fact that someone i saying shows a serious flaw with you.
I do not try to shove my own things down other people's throats
- And, no one is shoving anything down his throat, They are SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS.
because I do not want golfers telling me how great golf is.
- But even if they were to do it, You shouldn't have them. it just means they are passionate.
Mate, i have Jehovah's witnesses coming to my door telling me how great god is, I just understand they are passionate about god,
i don't hate them nor am i rude to them.
This problem of hate seems to lie with you, but it's also not productive to this discussion.
I'm not being rude, but in my first reply to you, i just said, don't hate , it's not a good thing. You could have just taken that as advice,
but somehow .. you couldn't.
And any golfer who tries to talk me into golf, their religion or any other cult, like Linux or Apple, I am going to walk away from. Microcontroller guys can be as bad as other types of fanatics.
Yeah mate... there seems to be a thing with you, You make illogical jumps.
there are no cults here, no one is sacrificing virgins and putting goat heads on a pike
Comments like yours do not arise for no reason and this part
I am going to walk away from. Microcontroller guys can be as bad as other types of fanatics.
- This comment has me curious
I mean, have you been burned my electronics guys being toxic ?
Mate, i've been on forums like Stack and Arduino and so on and i've dealt with the rudest guys who have the biggest chip on their shoulder
and they are not necessarily interested in discussion but instead they just want everyone to accept their point.
Me, i don't worry about it, I just accept that this person is the way they are.
If you enjoy electronics , My advice is dont let others kill your buzz. But i also suspect that part of the problem is with you.
You can't be so rigid to say that the O.P. cannot use Arduino or should not use Arduino for his project.
it's about experimentation, it's about learning , LET HIM BE FREE TO DO WHAT HE LIKES
but the concept is
THE MORE IDEAS THE O.P. HAS , THE MORE LIKELY THE O.P. IS TO HAVE A BETTER OUTCOME
But don't hate it for any reason. as it's not going to contribute to your as a person in any positive way.
does that make sense ?
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