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Quick Question, Prior to update did you have any bundled options installed ?
Another Question : Did you get an Error when it failed and if so what was the error ?
Hi, I have it installed MSO5102, MSO5000 BND update part..
I didn't get an error message, the options update was just not correct and the options menu update information was completely empty..
I made a new "rigol_kg2_3_000.py" priv.pem file with a different EC PRIVATE KEY and with that I got the complete activation done.
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Quick Question, Prior to update did you have any bundled options installed ?
Another Question : Did you get an Error when it failed and if so what was the error ?
Hi, I have it installed MSO5102, MSO5000 BND update part..
I didn't get an error message, the options update was just not correct and the options menu update information was completely empty..
I made a new "rigol_kg2_3_000.py" priv.pem file with a different EC PRIVATE KEY and with that I got the complete activation done.
- apulanta
That's Awesome, thank you.
Quick Question, more curiosity than anything else, because you are the first MSO5102 that i came across.QuoteHi, I have it installed MSO5102, MSO5000 BND update part..
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Hey,
do you now also have 4 CHANNELS ACTIVATED ?
Yes, all 4 channels and all update parts are in use "FOREVER" -
Hey,
do you now also have 4 CHANNELS ACTIVATED ?
Yes, all 4 channels and all update parts are in use "FOREVER"
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Hello, at the time I updated a 5104 to version 01_03_03_00 and then I applied the Hack MSO5000.update.GEL and I have all the options unlocked and it works very well -
That's great, But just to be clear.
Hello, at the time I updated a 5104 to version 01_03_03_00 and then I applied the Hack MSO5000.update.GEL and I have all the options unlocked and it works very well
Did you apply the PYTHON SCRIPT or did you apply THE PATCH ?
and also did your MSO5104 have any bundled options installed ?
it sounds like you just patched it because
- It's not possible to license it correctly by JUST using the GEL file.
- To license it correctly You have to use the script and the priv.pem file
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I'm thinking of getting an MSO5074 and upgrading the bandwidth to 350 MHz.
The scope will come with the application bundle (MSO5000-BND) as standard. Is there a way to back it up so that I don't lose these options if the hack doesn't work out for some reason (assuming I don't brick the scope in the process)?
Or am I overthinking it?
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I'm thinking of getting an MSO5074 and upgrading the bandwidth to 350 MHz.
The scope will come with the application bundle (MSO5000-BND) as standard. Is there a way to back it up so that I don't lose these options if the hack doesn't work out for some reason (assuming I don't brick the scope in the process)?
Or am I overthinking it?
OK, i have tested this extensively and i can assure you of a few thingsQuoteThe scope will come with the application bundle (MSO5000-BND) as standard.
1. I would advise if you can get it WITHOUT the bundle and save money you'll be better offQuoteIs there a way to back it up so that I don't lose these options if the hack doesn't work out for some reason
2. well... Yes there is, there's actually 2 ways. but i think at this point in the game this point is irrelevant because the hack will work
and does work, Just to be clear also because 2 hacks exist, I'm talking about the FULLY LICENSED METHOD, which is going to do
exactly what they do at Rigol and properly license the scope and not just patch it, and in doing so you can freely upgrade
the firmware in the future and not lose any of your options.
The 2 methods are, Using the existing method of backing up the FRAM and NAND
Method 2 - Take it back to rigol, Say... something happened and they'll restore it for you, No problem
but like i said, None of this IS EVER GOING TO HAPPEN, we've just had too many people activate successfully for you to be the unlucky one out.
WON'T HAPPEN !Quote(assuming I don't brick the scope in the process)?
WELL...
- You're NOT gonna brick the scope by doing the python script , that's for certain
- If you lose power during the write process.. YES, You'll brick the scope (if you're concerned about that happening,
Hook it up to a U.P.S. at the time) or make sure you don't have electrical storms while upgrading
- If you lose Network connection during the write process YES, You'll brick the scope, so, Make sure you don't yank out the internet cable
or, your router doesn't die right at that time
that aside.. You are not going to brick your scope, You're just listening to old rumours that don't apply anymore
SERIOUSLY...
1. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT
2. JUST GET A STANDARD MSO5074 NO BUNDLES INSTALLED AND SAVE YOURSELF $600
The process is simple, Just go here and you'll have everything you need
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-dr-mefisto-licensing-method/
If you have any drama's or are unsure, Let me know, no problem, happy to help you
But don't worry, it's gonna be unlocked... no problem at all. -
Thanks for the detailed reply. It all makes sense.
2. JUST GET A STANDARD MSO5074 NO BUNDLES INSTALLED AND SAVE YOURSELF $600
The thing is that every Rigol distributor around here is currently including the bundle as standard, free of charge. It seems that getting the scope without the bundle would actually be more hassle than having it pre-installed. -
I'm thinking of getting an MSO5074 and upgrading the bandwidth to 350 MHz.
i should also add this ....
The scope will come with the application bundle (MSO5000-BND) as standard. Is there a way to back it up so that I don't lose these options if the hack doesn't work out for some reason (assuming I don't brick the scope in the process)?
Or am I overthinking it?
- Most of what you're heard until say... a month ago has been paranoia
- the more expensive a scope is the more people get scared of doing anything,this is where people jump to conclusions like bricking it.
this was a concern in the beginning , of course, when they were working on it and working out the kinks, doesn't apply anymore
- Now when DrMefist0 brought out the Version 2 of the python script a few things happened
1. it worked
2. A lot of people were skeptical
3. The patch process really did seem much simpler to do so most went down that road, but the flaw is, it doesn't survive firmware updates.
4. it seemed to only work on certain models (now we know, that being.. Only MSO5072 and MSO5074 without bundles.
So some people started saying "the script doesn't work", THAT'S NOT TRUE.
5. But recently WE HAD A BREAKTHROUGH, all those scopes that supposedly were not able to activate and license, ARE NOW GETTING
ACTIVATED AND LICENSED,
Dr Mefisto's script is
rigol_kg2.py
Me and Seppletronics were looking through the script and he saw a line of code, he changed it and it worked
and we've tested this and it has now worked on quite a few scopes of MSO5000, MSO51000 and i think 1 MSO52000
and with and without BND Options, so really there is nothing for you to worry about
this new script (which is probably not going to apply to you and only if you have a MSO5100) is called
rigol_kg2_3_00.py
When this happened, it was a game changer, the Patch method is now redundant in my eyes. and everyone that is attempting this
(except for 1 guy, it's a special circumstance) have activated successfully.
and you, on an MSO5074 ARE NOT A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE.
it looks though that you'll be using the first one.
if for some reason (i gather because of the bundled options) it doesn't work, You use the second one, that's it !!!
it's gonna work,
don't worry and don't over think it
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Thanks for the detailed reply. It all makes sense.
2. JUST GET A STANDARD MSO5074 NO BUNDLES INSTALLED AND SAVE YOURSELF $600
The thing is that every Rigol distributor around here is currently including the bundle as standard, free of charge. It seems that getting the scope without the bundle would actually be more hassle than having it pre-installed.QuoteThe thing is that every Rigol distributor around here is currently including the bundle as standard, free of charge.
Really ? Free of charge ? so How much is the scope and where are you located? and are you getting L.A. Probe with it
Because ... If you're gonna have it all activated, it includes Logic Analyzer and without the probe, it's pretty useless.
Really do consider getting the LA Probe, that's my advice , I'm in Sydney
i got the Scope for $2,000 No bundles, MSO5074 with LA Probe , it was gonna be $2600 but i made a deal for $2,000
and i see the prices have now come down somewhat as well. Sydney prices when i bought it, the scope was gonna be $2,000
and the probes $600 , which i thought was ridiculous
Now sydney prices, the scope is $1,500 and the probe $400QuoteIt seems that getting the scope without the bundle would actually be more hassle than having it pre-installed.
NO.. NOT REALLY
it's not more a problem per se, it's more that
1. if i can save you money i'd rather do that, Because we're gonna uninstall everything anyway and then reinstall everything.
2. it just adds less confusion for you, but IT'S NOT HARDER BY ANY MEANS.
so if you're getting it TRULY for free, and they're not just inflating the price and telling you crap, then just get it, No problem.
it'll activate the same way
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so if you're getting it TRULY for free, and they're not just inflating the price and telling you crap, then just get it, No problem.
The scope is €899+VAT (8.1% here in Switzerland) so there's clearly no pricing shenanigans going on:
it'll activate the same way
https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Rigol-MSO5074.html
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Thanks for the detailed reply. It all makes sense.
2. JUST GET A STANDARD MSO5074 NO BUNDLES INSTALLED AND SAVE YOURSELF $600
The thing is that every Rigol distributor around here is currently including the bundle as standard, free of charge. It seems that getting the scope without the bundle would actually be more hassle than having it pre-installed.
Ohh, and when buying the Logic Probe, Tell them (Make it part of the agreement)
SEE...
The stickers on the little channel logic probes (which are really just little squares with numbers on them) and the Ground one's , You have
16GND stickers, of which you only need 1, as they share a common ground
but.. The stickers have a piss weak glue on them so
1. Get them to send you a new set of stickers (they'll have to order it in, and they will) Make it part of the deal.
this is a KNOWN EXISTING PROBLEM and they will happily send you a set of stickers.
2. When you get home, You're gonna notice a few fall off, My advice, Just put a touch of superglue or some glue on them
and they'll be fine, but again, if you have a spare sticker pack, that's the better way to go isn't it .
I paid a bit extra for the L.A. probe... HAVEN'T REGRETTED IT FOR A SECOND
Actually i'll say this..
a little over 10 years ago when dave was doing the video on DS1052E Vs DS2000A
the consensus was.... DS2000A was more expensive, It was $1100 at the time and the 1052E was $800
I MADE THE DECISION TO GET THE HIGHER ONE... never regretted that decision
and , i wasn't even aware of the hack, Just got the Base model, 2 Ch, 70MHz
but yeah this MSO5000 THIS IS NUTS , and i heard of a guy doing a shootout with a MSO5000, MSO7000 and MSO8000 as well as one of the 12bit scopes and an RTB Series Rohde and Shwarz
and he still prefers the MSO5000
it's a very cool scope, YOU ARE GOING TO BE IMPRESSED
so after you activate it, go to this link
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/post-hacking-rigol-mso5000-post-hacking-tutorial-deep-dive/
where i have made a set of some 13 odd videos that go through step by step , Deep Dive into the scope so you now how to use everything
instead of just staying on a basic level of understanding, We go into everything FFT, MATH, REFERENCE, CURSORS etc
and you learn some cool troubleshooting tricks along the way
so seriously, don't worry about anything, You have conveniently jumped in at a very good time when all the bugs have been worked out.
there's really nothing for to be concerned about other than
Don't Lose Power
Don't Lose Network
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so if you're getting it TRULY for free, and they're not just inflating the price and telling you crap, then just get it, No problem.
The scope is €899+VAT (8.1% here in Switzerland) so there's clearly no pricing shenanigans going on:
it'll activate the same way
https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Rigol-MSO5074.html
I'll definitely get or build a logic probe at some point, though probably not immediately.QuoteThe scope is €899+VAT (8.1% here in Switzerland) so there's clearly no pricing shenanigans going on:
Yeah that seems right, that's around $1500 Australian, here the scope is currently $2,000 and $1500 is the USD price
so that looks good, if you want to get the LA probe later, that's fine, Just get it as some point.
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No idea. As I said in my first post, at this point I'm thinking through my options.
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No idea. As I said in my first post, at this point I'm thinking through my options.
Oh, i thought you had it on order.
No worries then. Make your decision, Knowing that if you do buy it, you won't have a problem upgrading.
Just let me know when you've got it and i'll help you
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I cannot find the firmware Ver. 00.01.03.03.00 on Rigol's official website
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I cannot find the firmware Ver. 00.01.03.03.00 on Rigol's official website
https://supportint.rigol.com/En/Index/listView/catid/28/tp/6/wd/mso5000
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I cannot find the firmware Ver. 00.01.03.03.00 on Rigol's official website
everything you need is here
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-dr-mefisto-licensing-method -
Recently upgraded my 5000 successfully using the rigol_kg2.py method.
I used a M2 Pro Mac mini to do the upgrade which is about as far away from a Windows x86 machine as you could get.
Roughly following the script, did the backups, scope already running the required version, just kept running Python rigol_kg2.py –i x.x.x.x and installing modules until no errors (python version is 3.11.7). Tried to get a bit clever with the network connection which didn't work but when I put the scope and computer on the same router all worked. Followed the steps to the end and all good.
I bought the 5000 with the logic analyser so some options were already on, didn't worry about them as they would get turned on in th upgrade.
Used the -s option with rigol_kg2.py to run ssh daemon, tried using the web interface user and pass but couldn't login.
What is the user and pass for ssh?
As I couldn't login I couldn't poke around to see if the sshd could be started at boot time. Is that possible?
During the upgrade I was getting message on the DSO screen, something about "9 retries, 8 remaining" which was a bit of a worry but obviously could be ignored as it worked in the end.
I can assure those nervous of the rigol_kg2.py approach it's quite robust as it tolerated my stuffing around.
A big thanks to all who have worked on the upgrades, won't use names as there too many and bound to leave someone out.
Ken.
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Try root and password Rigol201
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Recently upgraded my 5000 successfully using the rigol_kg2.py method.
I used a M2 Pro Mac mini to do the upgrade which is about as far away from a Windows x86 machine as you could get.
Roughly following the script, did the backups, scope already running the required version, just kept running Python rigol_kg2.py –i x.x.x.x and installing modules until no errors (python version is 3.11.7). Tried to get a bit clever with the network connection which didn't work but when I put the scope and computer on the same router all worked. Followed the steps to the end and all good.
I bought the 5000 with the logic analyser so some options were already on, didn't worry about them as they would get turned on in th upgrade.
Used the -s option with rigol_kg2.py to run ssh daemon, tried using the web interface user and pass but couldn't login.
What is the user and pass for ssh?
As I couldn't login I couldn't poke around to see if the sshd could be started at boot time. Is that possible?
During the upgrade I was getting message on the DSO screen, something about "9 retries, 8 remaining" which was a bit of a worry but obviously could be ignored as it worked in the end.
I can assure those nervous of the rigol_kg2.py approach it's quite robust as it tolerated my stuffing around.
A big thanks to all who have worked on the upgrades, won't use names as there too many and bound to leave someone out.
Ken.QuoteRecently upgraded my 5000 successfully using the rigol_kg2.py method.
WELL DONE, CongratulationsQuoteI used a M2 Pro Mac mini to do the upgrade which is about as far away from a Windows x86 machine as you could get.
ahhh.. not really, i'ts not like you did it on Black Arch LInux or something or used a Commodore 64 to do it.
MAC is pretty standard.Quoteso some options were already on, didn't worry about them as they would get turned on in th upgrade.
- You were correct to assume thatQuotejust kept running Python rigol_kg2.py –i x.x.x.x and installing modules until no errors (python version is 3.11.7).
- Yeah.. you could do it that way as well.
it's a bit painstaking, I DID IT THAT, But i did it just to test it.
i can confirm that you could have just installed all the modules, because if there are some there are unused, they won't hurt anything.QuoteUsed the -s option with rigol_kg2.py to run ssh daemon, tried using the web interface user and pass but couldn't login.
- IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO ENTER SSH
The script does that anyway and Automatically.Quotesomething about "9 retries, 8 remaining" which was a bit of a worry but obviously could be ignored as it worked in the end.
- Yeah... AND IT SEEMS EACH TIME YOU INSTALL A NEW FIRMWARE VERSION IT RESETS, so, it's not a problemQuoteI can assure those nervous of the rigol_kg2.py approach it's quite robust as it tolerated my stuffing around.
I AGREE, I did a lot more stuffing around
I ACTUALLY TRIED TO INTENTIONALLY BRICK THE SCOPE, I couldn't do it , So anyone that does......Really has to be putting in an effort to do something wrong.
Glad to hear you're licenced
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Hello,
I am trying to upgrade my MSO5072 using the Dr. Mefisto licensing method. I've gotten to step 16 but I've run into an Assertion Error between reading CFRAM and applying new CFRAM. We've used both rigol_kg2.py and rigol_kg2_3_000.py and both have given the same error.
Is this a problem specific to the 5072? And is there a way around it?
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Hello,
I am trying to upgrade my MSO5072 using the Dr. Mefisto licensing method. I've gotten to step 16 but I've run into an Assertion Error between reading CFRAM and applying new CFRAM. We've used both rigol_kg2.py and rigol_kg2_3_000.py and both have given the same error.
Is this a problem specific to the 5072? And is there a way around it?
Thanks for all the help.
ok STEP 16 is IF YOU NEED IT.
it's the step where you uninstall the options
YOU CAN SKIP THAT STEP
What happens when you run Step 17 ?
GO SLOWLY HERE
Does the PRIV.PEM gen generated?
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BTO, the priv.pem file is generated when I run the -r command. I tried just running the script without -r and as expected, everything had a fit and didn't activate. Following the instructions, I reloaded the 1.3.3.2 firmware and ran it again, and the same thing happened. I still am only getting 1 progress bar for reading the CFRAM and an assertion error instead of a second progress bar for applying CFRAM. This seems to be the only difference between the hack working and not working as I read through all the instructions and helpful comments. I tried disabling the firewall, upgrading to 1.3.3.0 and back down again, restarting the pc, and nothing solves the issue, it all comes back to this. The invalid licensing has left me with 5 more attempts remaining and I would rather not hit 0. I'm starting to feel like that one poor sap who's the only one this didn't work for. If you have any idea what the error could be please let me know, and thanks for your time.