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Re: Rigol DS1054Z Freeze-up Bug Confirmed ??
« Reply #475 on: April 18, 2018, 03:54:16 pm »
Sorry for reviving this but just want to inform that I have a GEL with version 4.4.1.1 that has a bootloader version > 0.0.1.2 (for sure) .

Model:DS1xxxZ
SN:DS1ZA17140xxxx
Manufacturer:RIGOL TECHNOLOGIES
Board Ver:0.1.1
Firmware Ver:0.2.3.11
BOOT Ver:0.0.1.3
CPLD Ver:1.1
SoftWare Ver:00.04.03

My bootloader is at 0.0.1.3 and I think I'm still on the original firmware it came with as well.
So not sure about if updating to that would be meaningful.

But you should attach the original complete archive of the version you have unmodified in this thread or the other thread. Also advise the source of the version (where you got it from, or better yet link to it) and the circumstances in which it was provided.

Then people can extract and do a compare on the code and see exactly what has changed.
Without knowing the above or comparing to the other bootloaders we won't know exactly what it's inclusion in this version achieves.
Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
Multimeters: Fluke 87V, 117, 27/FM     >>> Fluke 51/52 Thermometer Parts Required <<<
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Re: Rigol DS1054Z Freeze-up Bug Confirmed ??
« Reply #476 on: April 18, 2018, 05:00:18 pm »
Schock,

The NAND dump was provided by smithnerd, the extraction was done by janekivi and I just confirmed the extraction and parsed it along with the other GELs that are publicly available.

What I posted previously is the complete parsing of that GEL file. You can compare it to the original 4.4.1.1 that is provided by rigol and it's precisely the same.

The only thing that is extra is the bootloader.

Please look at this message with the GEL parsings

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-dsxxxx-gel-firmware-file-format/msg1479419/#msg1479419

and the next one with the bootloaders compilation + bootloader 1.2 ZIP which I didn't find (also) publicly available. This one was dumped by janekivi from it's own NVRAM.

Later, I'll link the file and you all can play with it and compare with previous versions.

I haven't yet tried to see where the version number is placed in the bootloader but once I discover it, I'll be able to inform if it's a 1.3 or 1.4 version.  I don't have this scope...
 

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Re: Rigol DS1054Z Freeze-up Bug Confirmed ??
« Reply #478 on: April 18, 2018, 09:28:52 pm »
Ok they may have removed that 4.4.1.1 version with the bootloader. Unless you can find the original link for me, original release notes or a date stamp or something that points to when it was released? I can find the one that replaced it no problem.

Btw if you read this post linked below it says it will nuke your scope if you have lower than a version 0.0.13 bootloader and apply that update. So yeah beware about giving that specific version to someone to apply. It's probably a typo and applicable to versions below 0.0.1.3 (makes more sense to me anyway).

Edit: I've confirmed the bootloader 0.0.13 is for an early firmware version 00.02.03.05.00 which is prior to version bootloader 0.0.1.0, 0.0.1.1, 0.0.1.2, 0.0.1.3 etc.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/just-upgrade-my-rigol-ds1054z-to-the-4-04-firmware/msg1068031/#msg1068031
« Last Edit: April 19, 2018, 12:22:15 pm by Shock »
Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
Multimeters: Fluke 87V, 117, 27/FM     >>> Fluke 51/52 Thermometer Parts Required <<<
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Re: Rigol DS1054Z Freeze-up Bug Confirmed ??
« Reply #479 on: April 19, 2018, 10:33:21 am »
Btw if you read this post linked below it says it will nuke your scope if you have lower than a version 0.0.13 bootloader and apply that update. So yeah beware about giving that specific version to someone to apply. It's probably a typo and applicable to versions below 0.0.1.3 (makes more sense to me anyway).

My goal was to help. You guys know better.

But, what I think it says there is that you shouldn't have 4.4.1.1 with bootloaders < 0.0.1.3.

So, this GEL that I shared solves that problem because it will, besides upgrading the APP, also upgrade the bootloader to >= 0.0.1.3.

What I can't understand is why Rigol didn't make it public!

Just my 50 cents...
 

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Re: Rigol DS1054Z Freeze-up Bug Confirmed ??
« Reply #480 on: April 19, 2018, 12:58:54 pm »
My goal was to help. You guys know better.
But, what I think it says there is that you shouldn't have 4.4.1.1 with bootloaders < 0.0.1.3.
So, this GEL that I shared solves that problem because it will, besides upgrading the APP, also upgrade the bootloader to >= 0.0.1.3.
What I can't understand is why Rigol didn't make it public!
Just my 50 cents...

I was wrong on the version number (I edited my post), but it appears you can still nuke/brick older scopes that have a very early bootloader prior to 0.0.13 (which is before bootloader 0.0.1.0) with the bootloader that came with the firmware 4.4.1.1. Not sure that impacts a whole lot of people but just putting it out there (it's better than not telling people).

Don't get me wrong, go for it :).
I'm still after a link or source of original 4.4.1.1 with bootloader before they replaced or removed it. So yeah PM or link me if you have it.

Anyway this thread should be left to die.
Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
Multimeters: Fluke 87V, 117, 27/FM     >>> Fluke 51/52 Thermometer Parts Required <<<
Oscilloscopes: Rigol DS1054Z, Phillips PM3065
 

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Re: Rigol DS1054Z Freeze-up Bug Confirmed ??
« Reply #481 on: December 11, 2019, 04:05:54 pm »
Hi,
I have a Rigol DS4000 series scope, the DS4024. It's obviously not the 1054, but maybe they are much the same. Had it for a few years and it has been absolutely fine, until today. It behaves something like the original owner of this thread describes. It locks up on booting and shows only "Rigol" on the screen and a bunch of LED's are lit. Stays like this forever. The trick with pressing the fifth left button on power up doesn't work. If I press the "Help" button on power up, it doesn't even say "Rigol". The screen is black. The only sign of life now is the "Single" button is lit.
Anybody having a clue?
I would be very happy.
Rudy
 

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Re: Rigol DS1054Z Freeze-up Bug Confirmed ??
« Reply #482 on: December 11, 2019, 10:26:38 pm »
Welcome to the forums, please start new thread by clicking on this link .
Include as much info as you can including photos, feel free to link back to this or any other thread if you think it's related.
Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
Multimeters: Fluke 87V, 117, 27/FM     >>> Fluke 51/52 Thermometer Parts Required <<<
Oscilloscopes: Rigol DS1054Z, Phillips PM3065
 

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Re: Rigol DS1054Z Freeze-up Bug Confirmed ??
« Reply #483 on: December 12, 2019, 08:42:43 am »
Hi,
I have a Rigol DS4000 series scope, the DS4024. It's obviously not the 1054, but maybe they are much the same. Had it for a few years and it has been absolutely fine, until today. It behaves something like the original owner of this thread describes. It locks up on booting and shows only "Rigol" on the screen and a bunch of LED's are lit. Stays like this forever. The trick with pressing the fifth left button on power up doesn't work. If I press the "Help" button on power up, it doesn't even say "Rigol". The screen is black. The only sign of life now is the "Single" button is lit.
Anybody having a clue?
I would be very happy.
Rudy

Better to start a new thread for this. It's nothing to do with the DS1054Z and nothing to do with the original problem.

(which was "The scope freezes up, becomes totally non-responsive (but still displays live waveform) when the Horizontal Zoom mode is engaged, and a Persistence Time other than "min" is selected. ")
 


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