Siglent SDG1000X Waveform Generators

[Ringmodulator]

I have just updated to the new FW.

A quick check showed, that it looks like the external clock issue is solved.
I have not checked for other issues.

Chris

[diodak]

The font has also been changed, unfortunately to an even smaller one... Probably for better screenshot quality (added under the Store/Recall button).

[eTobey]

I just received my SDG1032X today.

I was looking for an option to limit the leves, but i only could find amplitude limit. I guess am just blind?

[tautech]

I just received my SDG1032X today.

I was looking for an option to limit the leves, but i only could find amplitude limit. I guess am just blind?

P102
https://int.siglent.com/u_file/download/22_06_23/SDG1000X_UserManual_UM0201X-E01E.pdf

[eTobey]

I just received my SDG1032X today.

I was looking for an option to limit the leves, but i only could find amplitude limit. I guess am just blind?

P102
https://int.siglent.com/u_file/download/22_06_23/SDG1000X_UserManual_UM0201X-E01E.pdf

I can not find a limit on page 102, neither the page the viewer shows, or what page is written on the pages.

[Njk]

I'm afraid a separate thread will be created soon, labeled "Siglent Rubbish SDG1000X - An expensive piece of Junk"

[Mortymore]

 

[eTobey]

I'm afraid a separate thread will be created soon, labeled "Siglent Rubbish SDG1000X - An expensive piece of Junk"

So? do you actually know this device?

[tautech]

I just received my SDG1032X today.

I was looking for an option to limit the leves, but i only could find amplitude limit. I guess am just blind?

P102
https://int.siglent.com/u_file/download/22_06_23/SDG1000X_UserManual_UM0201X-E01E.pdf

I can not find a limit on page 102, neither the page the viewer shows, or what page is written on the pages.

Levels are dictated by the load the AWG is connected to and the Output setting, HiZ or 50 Ohms.

Datasheet specifies 20V p-p into HiZ and 10V p-p into 50 Ohms.
Is it something else you seek ? 

[BillyO]

Levels are dictated by the load the AWG is connected to and the Output setting, HiZ or 50 Ohms.

The AWG is always physically set at 50ohms out.  The output setting just changes the how the voltage is displayed by the AWG and not the voltage actually output.  Right?

Is it something else you seek ? 

I was going to ask him the same question.

[eTobey]

I want to test my microcontroller without destroying it. But this thing is almost as bad as the Rigol... Just the knob is a slighly better, and it has a keypad. 

[tautech]

I want to test my microcontroller without destroying it. But this thing is almost as bad as the Rigol... Just the knob is a slighly better, and it has a keypad. 

Without knowing how to use any tool correctly you cannot blame the tool for mistakes an operator user makes.

[eTobey]

I want to test my microcontroller without destroying it. But this thing is almost as bad as the Rigol... Just the knob is a slighly better, and it has a keypad. 

Without knowing how to use any tool correctly you cannot blame the tool for mistakes an operator user makes.

A proper tool should have some safety build in, because mistakes can be made by the best specialists too! This is especially likely, if the GUI is suboptimal 

[2N3055]

I want to test my microcontroller without destroying it. But this thing is almost as bad as the Rigol... Just the knob is a slighly better, and it has a keypad. 

Do you EVER read anything or research ANYTHING about things you are going to to buy before you buy it?
Do you ask for advice or recommendation BEFORE buying anything?

Or you just buy random thing and then expect that it magically has all the properties that you imagine it should have in your wild imagination ?

There is no definable setable amplitude limit on these AWG. Not on SDG1000X, not on SDG2000X, not on SDG6000X. Nowhere it claims so or anyone ever told you so.

Destroying DUT with AWG is not something that I 'we seen in practice that often, normally.
More likely is that you will destroy AWG backfeeding high voltage/current from your device back into AWG output.
That I have seen.
For that occasion , SDG1000X/ 2000X/ 6000X have output protection that disconnects output if it detects backfeeding of current into output. With enough energy people damaged AWGs even with protection.
Eventually, it is your responsibility to not do stupid things.

SDG7000A has both protection and setable output limits. But it has setable output  limits because it can generate very high voltages/currents on outputs that are capable of destroying something.

[tautech]

I want to test my microcontroller without destroying it. But this thing is almost as bad as the Rigol... Just the knob is a slighly better, and it has a keypad. 

Do you EVER read anything or research ANYTHING about things you are going to to buy before you buy it?
Do you ask for advice or recommendation BEFORE buying anything?

Or you just buy random thing and then expect that it magically has all the properties that you imagine it should have in your wild imagination ?

There is no definable setable amplitude limit on these AWG. Not on SDG1000X, not on SDG2000X, not on SDG6000X. Nowhere it claims so or anyone ever told you so.

Destroying DUT with AWG is not something that I 'we seen in practice that often, normally.
More likely is that you will destroy AWG backfeeding high voltage/current from your device back into AWG output.
That I have seen.
For that occasion , SDG1000X/ 2000X/ 6000X have output protection that disconnects output if it detects backfeeding of current into output. With enough energy people damaged AWGs even with protection.
Eventually, it is your responsibility to not do stupid things.

SDG7000A has both protection and setable output limits. But it has setable output  limits because it can generate very high voltages/currents on outputs that are capable of destroying something.

It's all okay.
We all know that owning a new instrument for 2 days makes us an expert on it, right ?   

[Martin72]

I'm afraid a separate thread will be created soon, labeled "Siglent Rubbish SDG1000X - An expensive piece of Junk"

Not quite, but it didn't take long.

[2N3055]

I want to test my microcontroller without destroying it. But this thing is almost as bad as the Rigol... Just the knob is a slighly better, and it has a keypad. 

Do you EVER read anything or research ANYTHING about things you are going to to buy before you buy it?
Do you ask for advice or recommendation BEFORE buying anything?

Or you just buy random thing and then expect that it magically has all the properties that you imagine it should have in your wild imagination ?

There is no definable setable amplitude limit on these AWG. Not on SDG1000X, not on SDG2000X, not on SDG6000X. Nowhere it claims so or anyone ever told you so.

Destroying DUT with AWG is not something that I 'we seen in practice that often, normally.
More likely is that you will destroy AWG backfeeding high voltage/current from your device back into AWG output.
That I have seen.
For that occasion , SDG1000X/ 2000X/ 6000X have output protection that disconnects output if it detects backfeeding of current into output. With enough energy people damaged AWGs even with protection.
Eventually, it is your responsibility to not do stupid things.

SDG7000A has both protection and setable output limits. But it has setable output  limits because it can generate very high voltages/currents on outputs that are capable of destroying something.

It's all okay.
We all know that owning a new instrument for 2 days makes us an expert on it, right ?   

Oh don't you worry...

He already made a new topic "Siglent SDG1032 as bad as rigol DG812?"...

[newbrain]

I now understand how a bowl of petunias can feel.

[BillyO]

I want to test my microcontroller without destroying it. But this thing is almost as bad as the Rigol... Just the knob is a slighly better, and it has a keypad. 

So you want current limit?

I'd still like to see a circuit of what you have in mind. 

It seems to me, if you set the AWG output correctly (as an example: HiZ with 5Vpp + 2.5V offset) and feed it into an input on the MCU there should not be any destruction unless the MCU itself is faulty.  Even then the output of the AWG is limited to 200ma.  The AWG will protect itself under most conditions unless you are doing something truly barbarous.

If you cannot bring yourself the set the output of the AWG correctly, put a resistor in line to reduce current further. 

[Martin72]

But this thing is almost as bad as the Rigol...

Build your own...

[Performa01]

SDG7000A has both protection and setable output limits. But it has setable output  limits because it can generate very high voltages/currents on outputs that are capable of destroying something.

At least SDG6000X has these features as well. You can enable the output amplitude limit:

Utility -> Output Setup -> Amplitude (on page 2); it can be set as low as 2 mVpp for the High-Z configuration.

I don't have an SDG2000X here, but wouldn't be surprised if it had the exact same feature.

And who knows? Maybe even the low end SDG1000X series have it. This is just one of the features that never made it into the user manuals of the lower end products. But I think it's more important that it made it into their firmware anyway...

[Martin72]

I don't have an SDG2000X here, but wouldn't be surprised if it had the exact same feature.

Confirmed.

[mawyatt]

SDG7000A has both protection and setable output limits. But it has setable output  limits because it can generate very high voltages/currents on outputs that are capable of destroying something.

At least SDG6000X has these features as well. You can enable the output amplitude limit:

Utility -> Output Setup -> Amplitude (on page 2); it can be set it as low as 2 mVpp for the High-Z configuration.

I don't have an SDG2000X here, but wouldn't be surprised if it had the exact same feature.

And who knows? Maybe even the low end SDG1000X series have it. This is just one of the features that never made it into the user manuals of the lower end products. But I think it's more important that it made it into their firmware anyway...

SDG2042X also has this feature!

Best,

[BillyO]

It's on the SDG1000X series too:

[BillyO]

There also seems to be an option in the 2nd page of the Utility menu called "OverVoltage protection" and you can turn it on or off.  It does not seem to be covered in the manual.


Actually, it is:  Page 121.  I misspelled "OverVoltage" when I did the search fist time.