We're in the wild guessing range so it seems. There is shortage of everything, including test kits. So figures are off. The WHO wants countries to test more so they get their numbers right, but what do you do when there's a limited amount of tests left in the field? They mainly reserve them for hospitalized patients or severe cases. Others with suspect symptoms are told to stay at home and call emergency when its gets really worse, period.
It's good to remember that this 1% or whatever it turns out to be are almost exclusively people who would have died from the regular flu or any other sickness. They may very well have died this year unprovoked. It's not unlikely the period after the major wave has unusually low numbers of people dying as the more fragile citizens are already gone. The vast majority of the population has much better chances than 1 in 100 and a small portion is at significant risk.
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Even if UK has the best health care and infinite resource to take care of everyone, it would at best be able to get mortality rate down to 1%.Where this 1% comes from??
I think a lot of the wackos are just hoarders, you see the same thing with test equipment.
Finally some recent research data on the fomites. SARS-CoV-2 (formerly called HCoV-19) Stability Similar to Original SARS Virus.
absolutely wrong
even lots of young and fit people would die without intensive care and expensive machinery to help them breath (and some is diying notwithstanding that)
those kind of people are not usually affected by the flue
Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is plausible, since the virus can remain viable and infectious in aerosols for hours and on surfaces up to days
absolutely wrong
even lots of young and fit people would die without intensive care and expensive machinery to help them breath (and some is diying notwithstanding that)
those kind of people are not usually affected by the flueDo you have a source for that? So far the overwhelming majority of deaths seem to concern to already sick or fragile people. Young and fit people seem to not get sick or suffer from flu like symptoms.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
Even if the young and healthy won't die, it still means that many of them will need intensive care in order not to.
The Goddamn experts can go to hell. It were them saying 3 weeks ago that there is no need to close the borders and they will never do it. Fuck your experts.
The virus got us off-guard because it didn't didn't get here from China. Italy was the first country just by chance. But apart Spain no other country has been able to learn ....
Even if the young and healthy won't die, it still means that many of them will need intensive care in order not to.Do they? I'm not really seeing that right now.
The CDC does not have complete data (such as on use of an ICU) for all counted cases, and therefore gave a range for its estimates.
More than raw numbers, the percent of total cases gives a sense of the risk to different age groups. For instance, just 1.6% to 2.5% of 123 infected people 19 and under were admitted to hospitals; none needed intensive care and none has died.
But of the 144 cases in people 85 and older, 31% to 71% were hospitalized and 6.3% to 29% needed intensive care. The death rate in that age group was 10% to 27%.
In contrast, among people 20 to 44, 14% to 21% of 705 cases were admitted to hospitals and 2% to 4% to ICUs; 0.1% to 0.2% died.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/That just confirms what I said?
So, yes, if you're not already in your twenties, chances are you just shrug it off. But in every other age bracket, chances are you're in for hospitalization and even ICU treatment.
So my daughter is in lock down along with her Mum. Her granny became symptomatic yesterday, nothing confirmed, but precautionary. I haven't had contact with my daughter for 6 days. So not included in mandatory lock down. I'm still voluntarily so for 5 days.
I have also reports of at least two other families in my wider friends network, symptomatic, in lock down. Heard the neighbour bark coughing all day and seen an ambulance visiting another house in my street today.
People here keep posting pictures from the pub and making light of it. When challenged they get defensive and say things like, "Don't judge me. Sure, people are out there getting it. But if i chose to have a few drinks and enjoy myself I will!". They just don't get it, that it's not "out there", it's right here, it's not coming, it's right now. I give it a week before the shit has hit the fan properly here.
So, yes, if you're not already in your twenties, chances are you just shrug it off. But in every other age bracket, chances are you're in for hospitalization and even ICU treatment.
No. Chances are you won't be. You have less probability of being hospitalized than not being.
That does not fit with the qualifier "Chances are."
Chances are you won't.... though you still could.
So my daughter is in lock down along with her Mum. Her granny became symptomatic yesterday, nothing confirmed, but precautionary. I haven't had contact with my daughter for 6 days. So not included in mandatory lock down. I'm still voluntarily so for 5 days.
I have also reports of at least two other families in my wider friends network, symptomatic, in lock down. Heard the neighbour bark coughing all day and seen an ambulance visiting another house in my street today.
People here keep posting pictures from the pub and making light of it. When challenged they get defensive and say things like, "Don't judge me. Sure, people are out there getting it. But if i chose to have a few drinks and enjoy myself I will!". They just don't get it, that it's not "out there", it's right here, it's not coming, it's right now. I give it a week before the shit has hit the fan properly here.People are weird that way. Belgium went in lock-down. What do you think the Belgians do? The come to the Netherlands to go to the pub
As a result all the restaurants and pubs in the Netherlands got closed quickly. And I have another problem... I need to stay inside for more than two weeks but after that period I definitely need a haircut.
I need to stay inside for more than two weeks but after that period I definitely need a haircut.
It's good to remember that this 1% or whatever it turns out to be are almost exclusively people who would have died from the regular flu or any other sickness. They may very well have died this year unprovoked. It's not unlikely the period after the major wave has unusually low numbers of people dying as the more fragile citizens are already gone. The vast majority of the population has much better chances than 1 in 100 and a small portion is at significant risk.
People are weird that way. Belgium went in lock-down. What do you think the Belgians do? The come to the Netherlands to go to the pub
As a result all the restaurants and pubs in the Netherlands got closed quickly. And I have another problem... I need to stay inside for more than two weeks but after that period I definitely need a haircut.
Nobody really needs 10 guns .............If it's a pursuit you don't partake in you can be excused for thinking such however for those that do and partake in the many sporting disciplines 10 might not be enough.
Like screwdrivers, you need a different one for each job.
Even if the young and healthy won't die, it still means that many of them will need intensive care in order not to.Do they? I'm not really seeing that right now.