I am curious how long my posting here is uncensored to be seen.
Oh so we are part of the conspiracy. Humor us clever dick, why would this be a big hoax. Go on, don't just post other people bull, tell us in your infinite wisdom, why?
Then stop the bullying.
The whole story around it is much too serious for that.
End of discussion!
In case you forgot. I am the one that get's to ban you when you have pissed me off enough, and if you think that proves your stupid little theories right then I'll tell you while i still have the chance that it does not!
@ hwj-d please post the censored stuff again, but try tone it down a bit mate,
and put yourself in the Mods' shoes.. or flip flops ?
Simon has enough corpotrolls, bs conspiracy clowns, and idiots from other electronics forums causing drama here to deal with already
Multiple accusations of US snatching mask shipments destined for other countries
https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ausland/id_87648648/coronavirus-pandemie-masken-beschlagnahmt-usa-reagiert-auf-vorwuerfe.html
Criminal negligence, lies and a massive cover-up by the government...
https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw-health-allowed-cruise-ship-passengers-to-disembark-despite-test-results-pending-20200403-p54gze.html
I am curious how long my posting here is uncensored to be seen.
Oh so we are part of the conspiracy. Humor us clever dick, why would this be a big hoax. Go on, don't just post other people bull, tell us in your infinite wisdom, why?
Then stop the bullying.
The whole story around it is much too serious for that.
End of discussion!
In case you forgot. I am the one that get's to ban you when you have pissed me off enough, and if you think that proves your stupid little theories right then I'll tell you while i still have the chance that it does not!
@ hwj-d please post the censored stuff again, but try tone it down a bit mate,
and put yourself in the Mods' shoes.. or flip flops ?
Simon has enough corpotrolls, bs conspiracy clowns, and idiots from other electronics forums causing drama here to deal with already
Multiple accusations of US snatching mask shipments destined for other countries
https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ausland/id_87648648/coronavirus-pandemie-masken-beschlagnahmt-usa-reagiert-auf-vorwuerfe.html
America first, don´t you know ?
Criminal negligence, lies and a massive cover-up by the government...
https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw-health-allowed-cruise-ship-passengers-to-disembark-despite-test-results-pending-20200403-p54gze.html
I have a fundamentally different opinion on the lethality of this corona virus, and have many concrete examples and cinematic evidence that published film clips of the MSM are fake, and many large hospitals where corona patients claim overcrowding are actually empty.
Multiple accusations of US snatching mask shipments destined for other countries
https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ausland/id_87648648/coronavirus-pandemie-masken-beschlagnahmt-usa-reagiert-auf-vorwuerfe.html
America first, don´t you know ?
We ARE #1 in the whole freakin world! For confirmed cases. And we are leaving y'all in the dust!
Here is another one, good analysis of that situation.
I have a fundamentally different opinion on the lethality of this corona virus, and have many concrete examples and cinematic evidence that published film clips of the MSM are fake, and many large hospitals where corona patients claim overcrowding are actually empty.Well, first of all Germany isn't hit very hard yet and Germany seems to have an extreme ICU capacity. Secondly the video you linked to is from the US. The US is just starting to get hit by the Corona virus. The big storm is yet to come and what the 'critical thinking' video shows is that hospitals are getting prepared. Go and film the same spots in a couple of weeks; I'm sure they are crowded with patients. Over here in the NL the ICU capacity of the hospitals has been scaled up to maximum capacity but nobody is sure it is enough. Even with patients being moved across the country and some even to Germany. BTW numbers from the Netherlands show that only about 1 in 5 persons ending up in the ICU survives and 20% to 30% of the Corona deaths aren't counted in the official statistics.
Ofcourse you are entitled to your opinion but don't get fooled by people who serve carefully selected footage to paint a general picture showing nothing is going on. The world's economy hasn't been halted for a fire drill!
Here is another one, good analysis of that situation.No. A typical case of denial. In a couple of weeks you'll see a video of her crying because someone dear to her died due to Corona and then she feels quilty for downplaying the seriousness. Mark my words. My wife knows quite a lot of people and at least 2 have died due to Corona. These persons wheren't old (below 60) and likely more to follow.
Multiple accusations of US snatching mask shipments destined for other countries
https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ausland/id_87648648/coronavirus-pandemie-masken-beschlagnahmt-usa-reagiert-auf-vorwuerfe.html
America first, don´t you know ?
We ARE #1 in the whole freakin world! For confirmed cases. And we are leaving y'all in the dust!Make America .. virulent again?
Well done I suppose!
look into the analysis of Amazing Polly
For instance, our privacy is being massively eroded in the name of tracing infections. On the one had that's a good use of information, but on the other it's a very slippery slope. At the end (if there is an end!) it's likely that most of these privacy invasions will have become the norm and will stick around. Some of these emergency laws won't be repealed, etc. All our governments have lots of form for doing that, but what they are doing is taking advantage of a situation.
I don't see how a personal experience should make a difference, however sad it is. It would sure bias your own perception of reality, but unfortunately, the severity of a pandemic is just judged by numbers... Hard facts.
Anyway.
I really have heard of mixed opinions from serious people in the medical field so far. I admit I absolutely don't know what to think at the moment. Not that it even makes a difference anyway, as we have no choice but follow the orders of our governments and be reasonably cautious otherwise.
Some specialists seem to think we are overreacting, some clearly state that we are not doing enough. In both camps, many are saying we aren't doing things right at the moment though, so there seems to be a small sad consensus on this, while we are pedalling to get it over with. It's also sad to see that we seem to kindly ignore what those that "succeeded" (relatively) did, and what they are currently suggesting us, while our figures keep growing despite the confinement.
One thing that is factually frightening about this virus is not necessarily the numbers in the end, but how the victims' life ends when they are the unlucky ones. Respiratory infections are always awful when they get bad, but this one can get REALLY bad - people basically end up "drowning" in their own fluids. Atrocious way of ending your life.
Ofcourse you are entitled to your opinion but don't get fooled by people who serve carefully selected footage to paint a general picture showing nothing is going on. The world's economy hasn't been halted for a fire drill!
For instance, our privacy is being massively eroded in the name of tracing infections. On the one had that's a good use of information, but on the other it's a very slippery slope. At the end (if there is an end!) it's likely that most of these privacy invasions will have become the norm and will stick around. Some of these emergency laws won't be repealed, etc. All our governments have lots of form for doing that, but what they are doing is taking advantage of a situation.
I mentioned my pessimistic fear of this in several posts, and I agree with you here. Some people (I don't blame them!) are trying to see the positive in all this and how it could change things for the better in the end - I unfortunately have little hope of that.
As I said earlier, just like what happened with our fight against terrorism, it's extremely likely that our privacy AND freedom are going to be severely eroded for quite a while (in the optimistic scenario), and possibly for a very long time otherwise.
Ofcourse you are entitled to your opinion but don't get fooled by people who serve carefully selected footage to paint a general picture showing nothing is going on. The world's economy hasn't been halted for a fire drill!
You're making a mistake in assuming that any rational argument is going to make a dent in the belief system of the committed conspiracy fan. That everybody in the world is hunkered down in their homes is, to them, evidence that they are right. Because that's what the government wants. To them this is evidence that the government have some nefarious plan that requires trashing the world's economy for god knows how many months. That this would require an effective conspiracy to be driving the actions all the governments in the world is, to them, entirely believable. To them Occam's Razor is something that the Men In Black use on your throat when you get too close to the government's secrets. You are dealing with people who do not and will not approach the subject with rational thinking and dealing with them on the basis that they will see sense is futile.
Quotelook into the analysis of Amazing Polly
Don't have time or the willpower to sit through multiple half-hour videos. If they have something important or useful to say then write it down. If they can't be arsed to do that, because videos are easy, it's not worth my time either.
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