Inhabitants of Gibraltar can pack there bags if a brexit becomes a reality.
Sun and cheap alcohol! Costa del sol is their favorite retirement destination, if Brittons exit Eu the Spaniards could quite easily demand them out of Spain!
British voters have to know that there will be no kind of renegotiation. We have concluded a deal with the prime minister. He got the maximum he could receive and we gave the maximum we could give. So there will be no renegotiation, not on the agreement we found in February, nor as far as any kind of treaty negotiations are concerned.
Buried as a side note in the business section on our 'impartial' BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36596060Quote from: Markus Kerber (head of BDI)Imposing trade barriers, imposing protectionist measures between our two countries - or between the two political centres, the European Union on the one hand and the UK on the other - would be a very, very foolish thing in the 21st Century,
Sun and cheap alcohol! Costa del sol is their favorite retirement destination, if Brittons exit Eu the Spaniards could quite easily demand them out of Spain!Yeah, who'd want wealthy self-supporting retirees with pensions to spend in their country anyway?
Why is Spain so popular with the British? weather - economics ??
(BBC says Spain is the number 1 country for British expats)
You assume utterly wrongly they are wealthy and self sporting!
5.5millon Brittons in Spain is there because Spain cheap and EU laws! Brittons if leaving EU could/would lose a range of specific rights to live, work and to access pensions, healthcare and public services that are only guaranteed because of EU laws. Brittonic citizens resident abroad who have retired to Spain would then not be able to assume that these rights will be guaranteed. Suddenly cheap Spain is not so cheap anymore so there goes your wealthy self supporting pensioners.
Put it this way if Brexit Spain might go sour on 5,5million Brtittons having free health care they didnt pay for in the first place!
...Im not particularly concerned merely holding the mirror reflect the future Putin-Trump friendship.
Sun and cheap alcohol! Costa del sol is their favorite retirement destination, if Brittons exit Eu the Spaniards could quite easily demand them out of Spain!
so 5,5 million abroad in total and 1 million in Spain, 1,4million Australia, 25000 in Sweden 15500 Norway...None dares come to Finland because of the language!!
There are now at least 3 different figures, from where did you get your numbers? We could turn it the other way how many
Polish plumbers have to leave if UK leave, or the total numbers of foreigners in UK? or will they automatically become UK citizens?
Vodka? No i dont drink Russian stuff, but would not say no to a Irish Cream. UK government, read a bit hastily, i stand corrected, so 5,5 million
abroad in total and 1 million in Spain, 1,4million Australia, 25000 in Sweden 15500 Norway...None dares come to Finland because of the language!
Anyhow point is, they might have to go back from sunny low cost Spain!
"It should be the choice of the Spanish who is allowed to reside in their country. "
Most sources say about 300.000
From WIKI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Spain
and other: https://fullfact.org/europe/how-many-uk-citizens-live-other-eu-countries/
From SPANISH INE compiled data (actually < 300.000) : http://www.spanishpropertyinsight.com/2016/05/17/eu-expats-deserting-spain-thanks-government-policy/
(INE data is based on NIE numbers - which are the social security number in Spain - you are required to be registered if full time resident - or if you buy anything that requires registration (car, moped, house, apartment) - or even buy a POWER SUPPLY from an online electronics shop - used for VAT statistics on "larger items" )
Spain would collapse (again) if all the Brits left. About 25 % of full time residents left between 2012 and 2014 - and that was felt on the economy along the popular spots. Most Brit residents in Spain can actually pay for their own way from pensions - that is the kind of residents the local governments like! Money infused into the system - and all health/hospital issues invoiced on to the UK. REVENUE with no expense is the best part. And the Spanish while they love to say they don't like the Brits staying and taking housing in some places - they have found out the replacements nationalities are a lot worse.
Btw there are officially about 300.000 full time Brits left in Spain by mid of 2015. Not 700.000... But if you count people with part time occupation (Like us) who have a little apartment there - then it might total to 700.000. But if they/we all left - the housing market would crash again. The locals says finally the Brits are returning and now they talk about Brexit.....
Btw - I'm not a Brit but my family are. And we are lucky and found a place where people are mostly polite from locals to expats and not one of the "party" areas where it is full of Drunken Idiots with little respect for anything.
Buried as a side note in the business section on our 'impartial' BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36596060Quote from: Markus Kerber (head of BDI)Imposing trade barriers, imposing protectionist measures between our two countries - or between the two political centres, the European Union on the one hand and the UK on the other - would be a very, very foolish thing in the 21st Century,So vote 'stay' because exiting the EU will impose trade barriers one way or another even though they are not intended that way. Think about taxes, import tarifs, visa, product safety regulations, etc, etc. All these will need to be contained within new treaties and there will be problems for sure if the UK wants to use different product safety regulations than mainland Europe. If the UK exits they basically have to follow product safety rules (they could choose to adopt the ones from the US) they cannot influence. Ofcourse they could try and set their own but that would make the products the UK imports more expensive due to needing extra testing.
Brexit is then sort of poor jobless brit's against middle class wealthy brit's!
The result of the Dutch people voting the wrong way Why we should ban referenda on EU policies
Trump is a textbook demagogue: everything he says is designed to engage with people's emotions, fears and prejudices rather than their brains.
Very much the same tactics being used by both sides of the Brexit campaign, in fact.
What action did Trump took made him a demagogue? What did he say that made him a demagogue? Give me a quote please.As enjoyable as it might be, this thread is not the appropriate place for a protracted discussion of Donald Trump's verbal excretions.
If you cannot cite a quote, it is baseless. Why then do you see this as an appropriate place for you to throw verbal bombs and baseless accusations?
But these drunken idiots is what some one here said was " self-supporting retirees with pensions to spend"..