SDS 2000X HD is not a beginners or hobby scope. It is very inexpensive actually, for what it is..
Price is important but follows function, capability and quality.
For what I can see SDS800X HD will have most of the capabilities of SDS2000X HD in smaller package.
If they price it close to DHO800 (meaning reasonably above) that would create problems for Rigol. DHO800 is very basic scope with very little capabilities.
It would make superb (once it is debugged) replacement for Rigol DS1000Z.
But in comparison to SDS800X HD, DHO800 has something like 30% of capabilities of Siglent. Just compare math channels.
But, for the record, I personally don't agree with practice about releasing info about new products too soon. I think it is counterproductive. It makes fact that one manufacturer is actually very professional and develops products in very serious and professional manner somehow presented like a bad thing.
"Siglent lost the race to market" instead "Rigol released too soon and now there are thousands of people with scopes that don't work".
I personally think Rigol was very unprofessional and released unfinished products. If anything, with time it will be many unhappy users. Rigol did bad thing for long term reputation. In my opinion, of course..
Quote from: NeutrionAnd, by the way the sds2104x-e for example is not a really good 200 Mhz scope
Where did you get that idea?Never mind. Such a scope doesn't even exist.
And if so, it would certainly be a 100 MHz instrument.
Of course you couldn't imagine which scope am I talking about. Of course 1204x-e
Datasheet (Chinese only): https://www.siglent.com/u_file/download/23_12_04/SDS800X%20HD_Datasheet_CN01A.pdf
Yep, announcing "We also have a HD model! Wait for us!!" after Rigol releases their DHO1000 isn't helping anybody.
If info is public knowledge, then confidentiality doesn't apply.
As for confidentiality agreement, like tv84 said, once ANYBODY on a planet publishes a peep about it is not confidential anymore.
There are usually other exclusions as well.
I agree, it's more advanced than an usual scope. If I will ever want to buy an R&S 2000 series, for sure the SDS2000 X HD will be a better option in every aspect.
If info is public knowledge, then confidentiality doesn't apply.As for confidentiality agreement, like tv84 said, once ANYBODY on a planet publishes a peep about it is not confidential anymore.
There are usually other exclusions as well.
As someone who has to sign / observe a lot of non-disclosure agreements: it doesn't matter if the whole world is shouting "confidential" information from the rooftops - I'm still bound by the NDA until the NDA is rescinded or expires. Period.
I agree, it's more advanced than an usual scope. If I will ever want to buy an R&S 2000 series, for sure the SDS2000 X HD will be a better option in every aspect.
I would beg to differ I haven't looked at the specs yet or done a proper comparison, but the RTB2000 is a very strong performer.
As someone who has to sign / observe a lot of non-disclosure agreements: it doesn't matter if the whole world is shouting "confidential" information from the rooftops - I'm still bound by the NDA until the NDA is rescinded or expires. Period.
mmmh - no HDMI output? (did not see this in the data sheet)
I agree, it's more advanced than an usual scope. If I will ever want to buy an R&S 2000 series, for sure the SDS2000 X HD will be a better option in every aspect.
I would beg to differ I haven't looked at the specs yet or done a proper comparison, but the RTB2000 is a very strong performer.
And I respectfuly urge you look at the datasheet. RTB 2000 i very good entry level scope. But SDS2000X HD has very advanced capabilities, not even MXO4 has.. it even has zone triggers..
mmmh - no HDMI output? (did not see this in the data sheet)
But SDS2000X HD has very advanced capabilities, not even MXO4 has.. it even has zone triggers..
mmmh - no HDMI output? (did not see this in the data sheet)Not in the I/O list = not available/implemented.
TBH their webserver works well and these units support external mouse and keyboard, directly or via PC webserver.
mmmh - no HDMI output? (did not see this in the data sheet)Not in the I/O list = not available/implemented.
TBH their webserver works well and these units support external mouse and keyboard, directly or via PC webserver.
That's really what I'm interested in, and miss in my current scope.
With small displays, that could be a way to turn around the inconvenience, if it works well.
With small displays, that could be a way to turn around the inconvenience, if it works well.
But SDS2000X HD has very advanced capabilities, not even MXO4 has.. it even has zone triggers..
Touché
The MXO zone trigger will be out next year. The reason it's taking a while is that it is an ASIC based trigger, which makes it an order of magnitude (or more) faster than the traditional way of implementing zone triggers.
Does the Siglent have that?
Just the fact that we can even mention MXO4 when comparing function parity is telltale sign how good little Siglent is. MXO4 costs 5-10X more..