the 1104x-e is only 2-channel math right?
Yes.
Announcing a product more than 9 months before releasing it is the embarrassing part, in my view.
I think you're confusing something here. There has never been any official announcement of an SDS1000X HD.
Tautech always likes to keep us informed and once started a thread about a newly released scope in China, without any international release date proposal. That's all.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1000x-hd-coming/
Of course there have been plans to release this scope in the rest of the world some day, but Siglent never communicated a release date. And anybody following the thread linked above would have noticed that there was some major redesign going on. The instrument that might get released in the first quarter of 2024 is not the same anymore which got released 6 months ago in China. The difference is not just firmware.
Fact that that DHO1000 you are about to receive has bugs in basic triggering after a more than a year..??
And bunch of other unfinished stuff..
In a ANOTHER year we'll see how much stuff they will fix..
I wish you luck.
Thanks for the compassion.
I wanted a 10" touch-screen scope. The only Siglent option within my budget, after it became apparent that the 1000X HD will not go beyond "teaser" status this year, was the 2000X plus. Which, as you know, I had actually ordered, and only switched for a Rigol DHO1000 when that became available at exactly half the price of the Siglent.
It was a difficult decision with mutiple tradeoffs (resolution vs. bandwidth, "interactive" vs. "analytical" use). The price did play a role, since the 2000X Plus was already well above what I had planned to spend initially. The SDS1000X HD might have been the better compromise for me, but who knows when and whether that will actually become available. I got scolded for my "this might not be the right time to buy a scope in this class" doubts in another thread.
So here we are -- I am very happy with the DHO1000 after a quick incoming check, and will dive deeper after Christmas. You might be weighing things differently than I do, but I did not read about any bugs or functionality gaps which I would consider severe for my intended use. (Clearly, your use or interest may be different.)
It would be nice to see some update for 4-ch math on the 1004x-e but I don't see it happening, especially now...
4. Better than "more than 8"..
Only if you know their definition of "typical" and what the caveat in note 1 is.2. only in specific setting in useless UltraAcquire mode.
Does it acquire or doesn't it?
Typical here means "No worse than 8.4bit" in Rigol speak.
I think you're confusing something here. There has never been any official announcement of an SDS1000X HD.
Well, both the SDS800X HD and the 1000 X HD (back in March) were announced here by tautech. He is on a contract with Siglent, and it seems very clear to me that he only announces what Siglent authorizes him to make public. (He has made little hints with a "sorry, can't tell you more yet" disclaimer more than once. Which is fine, but tells me that what he does post, he has been authorized to release.)
So in my understanding, the SDS800X HD and the 1000X HD (a long time ago) have been "announced" here with Siglent's blessing.
The 1000X HD announcement, especially the one about the upgraded specs, has certainly derailed my decision-making process a bit and has left a sour aftertaste. Anyway, Black Friday business is over, Christmas and year-end business will be over soon, I have made my decision, and Siglent's release schedule is no longer my problem.
I think you're confusing something here. There has never been any official announcement of an SDS1000X HD.
Well, both the SDS800X HD and the 1000 X HD (back in March) were announced here by tautech. He is on a contract with Siglent, and it seems very clear to me that he only announces what Siglent authorizes him to make public. (He has made little hints with a "sorry, can't tell you more yet" disclaimer more than once. Which is fine, but tells me that what he does post, he has been authorized to release.)
So in my understanding, the SDS800X HD and the 1000X HD (a long time ago) have been "announced" here with Siglent's blessing.What "seems very clear to you" has nothing to do with the truth. Tautech is just a ditributor; he certainly dosn't ask for permission when he copies some content from the Chinese website and makes a post in a forum. Since every interested person could do that, how should Siglent management prevent it?The 1000X HD announcement, especially the one about the upgraded specs, has certainly derailed my decision-making process a bit and has left a sour aftertaste. Anyway, Black Friday business is over, Christmas and year-end business will be over soon, I have made my decision, and Siglent's release schedule is no longer my problem.Not sure what you're trying to tell us. Yes, Siglents schedule is quite obviously no longer a problem for you, thankfully so.
Enjoy your Christmas present!
Typical here means "No worse than 8.4bit" in Rigol speak.
"More than 8" declares a minimum.
"Typical 8.5 *1" doesn't.
Why on Earth this ugly black (grey) color again? Really all marketing fuzzies have to follow each other blindly?
Or was there any kind of majority for it in some major studies? With the ninja scopers?
Also not good to not to have some bevel around the screen to protect when falling forvard or at transportation. And of corse please also with a matt screen if possible!
He is also in other brands threads talking about how Siglent products are better.
Siglent’s Western partner, LeCroy, have changed to black gear quite a while ago already – no wonder, their gear will be used in the same big labs…
Also not good to not to have some bevel around the screen to protect when falling forvard or at transportation. And of corse please also with a matt screen if possible!
You mean “bezel”, right? There it’s the same old story again.
People are ranting about the bezel, because it blocks sight to the borders when viewing at extreme angels. Without it, the touch screen is so much better to operate, especially the UI-elements in the corners can be hit so much easier.
Now Siglent have changed their ways and every new DSO since the SDS6000 has a flat screen up to the edges od the instrument – and now we get complaints again…
Apart from that, Siglent never have released gear with glossy screens.
He is also in other brands threads talking about how Siglent products are better.
Meh. He's generally supportive and helpful, even if it isn't Siglent stuff. If he factually states a comparison when somebody asks about different models, that's not bias. He's not going into Rigol threads and shitting on them like some people do the for Siglent threads.
And one more thing. If this comes with touch screen than the screen size of the 1104x-e is a no go I think.
It doesn't need much more resolution but a bigger screen would be a must.
And one more thing. If this comes with touch screen than the screen size of the 1104x-e is a no go I think.
It doesn't need much more resolution but a bigger screen would be a must.Certainly a 10" (or larger) touch display is preferable for heavy touch use however with the mouse support SDS800X HD has, this can compensate for the smaller display.
The addition of a mouse is cheaper than a 10" display.
Some background, I only found out 800 HD was coming yesterday however some contacts already knew it was.
Siglent sent me the datasheet which at this time I am instructed not to share but I have picked out many key features to share with you all.
Every thing can do better with mouse than with touch - least in my use with my usage patterns.
And one more thing. If this comes with touch screen than the screen size of the 1104x-e is a no go I think.
It doesn't need much more resolution but a bigger screen would be a must.Certainly a 10" (or larger) touch display is preferable for heavy touch use however with the mouse support SDS800X HD has, this can compensate for the smaller display.
The addition of a mouse is cheaper than a 10" display.
And one more thing. If this comes with touch screen than the screen size of the 1104x-e is a no go I think.
It doesn't need much more resolution but a bigger screen would be a must.Certainly a 10" (or larger) touch display is preferable for heavy touch use however with the mouse support SDS800X HD has, this can compensate for the smaller display.
The addition of a mouse is cheaper than a 10" display.How much more would be a 10"-er, or 8-9"? So no more resolution just a bigger screen. Of course you could not use the 1104x-e front mold what seems to be a point here, but for touching it would be a major plus.
Also for people with not so perfect eyesight, or if you sit a bit further away. On a 7" even with perfect sight, letters and numbers are a bit too small. You have to sit close to it.