Tariffs

[Cyclotron]

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In these three instances the police of what I assume is your country are accused of beating suspects in custody. Do you claim that all Belgium police are criminal, have a very bad attitude are are "intrinsically bad persons"?
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you missed that @Sorama expressed a deep sense of hatred towards an entire class of people. I didn't see you call that out. I did, and I asked if that extended to the same class of people in Sorama's home or my assumption of her home.

It’s typical for some people that like to blame others or are blind to reality or don’t see the difference between good and bad behavior to pump up something very specific one (I) said about the bad behavior (and therefore their character) because of the beating of a minority while pretenting to be the police (ice) to a complete exaggeration.

I said something very specific about having no respect for someone beating up other people and now you’re saying I have a deep sense of hatred towards an entire class of people?

Again, you’re so predictable.

Yes you said something very specific about a whole class of people. Here's the quote:

How could one work for ICE without being a criminal or a person with a very, very bad attitude ?
Intrinsically bad persons.

Analog Kid agreed and said he hated the whole lot. At least they were honest. You're even worse, you wish to lie about your blatantly bigoted statement.
You want to deny what you said above? Do you want to retract it? If so do so and apologize otherwise claim your bigotry like analog kid did.

To be clear, I have not seen you link to any specific incident at all. Just make blanket statements. I neither condone or support illegal and inhuman behavior the same as I don't condone bigotry.

[tggzzz]

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In these three instances the police of what I assume is your country are accused of beating suspects in custody. Do you claim that all Belgium police are criminal, have a very bad attitude are are "intrinsically bad persons"?
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Ah. Whataboutism.

You obviously woke up today and found out you don't know what that is. If you can define it, please show me how its relative.
In quick mission to continue to defend hatred (yes if you don't deny it you are supporting it), you missed that @Sorama expressed a deep sense of hatred towards an entire class of people. I didn't see you call that out. I did, and I asked if that extended to the same class of people in Sorama's home or my assumption of her home.

Firstly that's a strawman argument.

Doubling down on the ignorance isn't going to help. I asked if the class hatred extended to more LEOs and possibly those of Sorama's country. If you don't see how that's related I can't help.

Secondly, didn't your mother teach you that "two wrongs don't make a right"? Probably not, since the libertarian philosophy tends to be an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

Oh look at you spreading more hatred. Did you find a pretty word to color me with? Shake your fist at those clouds. lol

I do know what "whataboutism" means, and your statement clearly falls into that category.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/whataboutism
"whataboutism, the rhetorical practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation, by asking a different but related question, or by raising a different issue altogether. Whataboutism often serves to reduce the perceived plausibility or seriousness of the original accusation or question by suggesting that the person advancing it is hypocritical or that the responder’s misbehavior is not unique or unprecedented. Acts of whataboutism typically begin with rhetorical questions of the form “What about…?” "

Yes, as someone brought up in the Christian tradition, I do hate the concept of "an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth". Don't you? Did your education omit "two wrongs  don't make a right"?

[Sorama]

@Cyclotron,
Keep trying to make it look differently from what I said or mentioned.
A somewhat intelligent person knows what I mean.

Talking about lack of morality…
Anyway, it’s clear you haven’t said anything about the core principle of not  beating up people nor joining an illegal group of so called officers.

They are not particularly priests respecting basic rights or respect in general.
Fine for me if you support that, but don’t tell others how to feel about the beating.

[Cyclotron]

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In these three instances the police of what I assume is your country are accused of beating suspects in custody. Do you claim that all Belgium police are criminal, have a very bad attitude are are "intrinsically bad persons"?
...

Ah. Whataboutism.

You obviously woke up today and found out you don't know what that is. If you can define it, please show me how its relative.
In quick mission to continue to defend hatred (yes if you don't deny it you are supporting it), you missed that @Sorama expressed a deep sense of hatred towards an entire class of people. I didn't see you call that out. I did, and I asked if that extended to the same class of people in Sorama's home or my assumption of her home.

Firstly that's a strawman argument.

Doubling down on the ignorance isn't going to help. I asked if the class hatred extended to more LEOs and possibly those of Sorama's country. If you don't see how that's related I can't help.

Secondly, didn't your mother teach you that "two wrongs don't make a right"? Probably not, since the libertarian philosophy tends to be an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

Oh look at you spreading more hatred. Did you find a pretty word to color me with? Shake your fist at those clouds. lol

I do know what "whataboutism" means, and your statement clearly falls into that category.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/whataboutism
"whataboutism, the rhetorical practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation, by asking a different but related question, or by raising a different issue altogether. Whataboutism often serves to reduce the perceived plausibility or seriousness of the original accusation or question by suggesting that the person advancing it is hypocritical or that the responder’s misbehavior is not unique or unprecedented. Acts of whataboutism typically begin with rhetorical questions of the form “What about…?” "

Yes, as someone brought up in the Christian tradition, I do hate the concept of "an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth". Don't you? Did your education omit "two wrongs  don't make a right"?

I wasn't responding to an "accusation or a difficult question." There's no question that the statement is bigotry. I asked how far it extends.
How could this person be hypocritical of making their own bigoted statement?  That makes no sense at all.

Where's the strawman in my post?

I also do not know who or what you're talking about as far as your Christianity. I think that's irrelevant and a strawman isn't it?  No one argued that two wrongs make a right did they?

Analog Kid obviously knew what Somara said, thank the person, and later expounded on his hatred.
I tell you what I'll accept you calling it "Whataboutism" if you address the elephant in the room. You've had a good deal of opportunity to do so. I assume you seen Sorama as a comrade or worse you agree with the view expressed.

[Cyclotron]

@Cyclotron,
Keep trying to make it look differently from what I said or mentioned.
A somewhat intelligent person knows what I mean.

Talking about lack of morality…
Anyway, it’s clear you haven’t said anything about the core principle of not  beating up people nor joining an illegal group of so called officers.

They are not particularly priests respecting basic rights or respect in general.
Fine for me if you support that, but don’t tell others how to feel about the beating.

Analog Kid agreed with your bigotry and expounded on it. I didn't see you correct him for it if you are saying it "looks differently".  It is amusing how those without morals like to bring them up.
You have not given any link or provided any details about any beating. You are just tossing accusations around without care.

What beating?

Where's the illegal group of officers?

[Sorama]

Analog Kid agreed with your bigotry and expounded on it. I didn't see you correct him for it if you are saying it "looks differently".  It is amusing how those without morals like to bring them up.

No, he didn’t.
You may want to read again and try to understand.

[Cyclotron]

Analog Kid agreed with your bigotry and expounded on it. I didn't see you correct him for it if you are saying it "looks differently".  It is amusing how those without morals like to bring them up.

No, he didn’t.
You may want to read again and try to understand.

What part of "First of all, I do subscribe to the ACAB ("all cops are bastards") theory as regards police in general." do you not understand?

If the statement is an inaccurate representation of your views then change it and apologize or you can own it.

[Sorama]

Analog Kid agreed with your bigotry and expounded on it. I didn't see you correct him for it if you are saying it "looks differently".  It is amusing how those without morals like to bring them up.

No, he didn’t.
You may want to read again and try to understand.

What part of "First of all, I do subscribe to the ACAB ("all cops are bastards") theory as regards police in general." do you not understand?

If the statement is an inaccurate representation of your views then change it and apologize or you can own it.

Sorry, but you are just not worth it.

[Cyclotron]

Analog Kid agreed with your bigotry and expounded on it. I didn't see you correct him for it if you are saying it "looks differently".  It is amusing how those without morals like to bring them up.

No, he didn’t.
You may want to read again and try to understand.

With your people's treatment of others including people in my family, I see your statements of bigotry as not surprising.

If you want to see them in a new light, replace the words "cops", "ice" "leos" and so on with "indian", "african" "latino" or any other word used to label a group of people.

[Cyclotron]

Analog Kid agreed with your bigotry and expounded on it. I didn't see you correct him for it if you are saying it "looks differently".  It is amusing how those without morals like to bring them up.

No, he didn’t.
You may want to read again and try to understand.

What part of "First of all, I do subscribe to the ACAB ("all cops are bastards") theory as regards police in general." do you not understand?

If the statement is an inaccurate representation of your views then change it and apologize or you can own it.

Sorry, but you are just not worth it.

Well at least you admit it.

[Sorama]

Analog Kid agreed with your bigotry and expounded on it. I didn't see you correct him for it if you are saying it "looks differently".  It is amusing how those without morals like to bring them up.

I admit you’re not worth my time, indeed.

No, he didn’t.
You may want to read again and try to understand.

What part of "First of all, I do subscribe to the ACAB ("all cops are bastards") theory as regards police in general." do you not understand?

If the statement is an inaccurate representation of your views then change it and apologize or you can own it.

Sorry, but you are just not worth it.

Well at least you admit it.

[Cyclotron]

Analog Kid agreed with your bigotry and expounded on it. I didn't see you correct him for it if you are saying it "looks differently".  It is amusing how those without morals like to bring them up.

I admit you’re not worth my time, indeed.

No, he didn’t.
You may want to read again and try to understand.

What part of "First of all, I do subscribe to the ACAB ("all cops are bastards") theory as regards police in general." do you not understand?

If the statement is an inaccurate representation of your views then change it and apologize or you can own it.

Sorry, but you are just not worth it.

Well at least you admit it.

I think Sorama is broken. Well, maybe now in more ways that I previously thought.

[Sorama]

It seems my answer did not get through…
Here you have it:
I admit you’re not worth my time, indeed.

[tggzzz]

Analog Kid agreed with your bigotry and expounded on it. I didn't see you correct him for it if you are saying it "looks differently".  It is amusing how those without morals like to bring them up.

No, he didn’t.
You may want to read again and try to understand.

What part of "First of all, I do subscribe to the ACAB ("all cops are bastards") theory as regards police in general." do you not understand?

If the statement is an inaccurate representation of your views then change it and apologize or you can own it.

Sorry, but you are just not worth it.

In his defence and to his credit, sometimes he is aware of his limitations.

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I do ignore large chunks of information.
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But overall I have come to the same conclusion as you

For the avoidance of doubt, we all have limitations. Recognising what they are is the first step to not feeling downtrodden by "the elites" who do not have the same limitations.

[Sorama]

We indeed all do have our limitations.
Some are way smarter than me, have a better condition than me, have better understanding of historical facts like the history of swastikas (which I did not know).

But none of them are needed to know you should not harm anyone, let alone beat them up and make a professional and paid job by doing so.

Choosing for that is -for me- a reason to drop that person, not wanting him as a customer nor as a friend.
I call it basic morality.

And, maybe somewhat too simplified, what led to tariffs is also a lack of basic morality of the clowns at the White House. So we are back on topic 

[HuronKing]

With your people's treatment of others including people in my family, I see your statements of bigotry as not surprising.

If you want to see them in a new light, replace the words "cops", "ice" "leos" and so on with "indian", "african" "latino" or any other word used to label a group of people.

These are not equivalent identities morally or legally. No one can help the fact they are Indian, or African, or Latino. That's why the USA defines these things (as well as disability, age, etc) as protected classes against discrimination.

There is no universe in which a song hating on taxmen as a group (by the Beatles) is equivalent to a song hating on Africans... 

[Cyclotron]

Analog Kid agreed with your bigotry and expounded on it. I didn't see you correct him for it if you are saying it "looks differently".  It is amusing how those without morals like to bring them up.

No, he didn’t.
You may want to read again and try to understand.

What part of "First of all, I do subscribe to the ACAB ("all cops are bastards") theory as regards police in general." do you not understand?

If the statement is an inaccurate representation of your views then change it and apologize or you can own it.

Sorry, but you are just not worth it.

In his defence and to his credit, sometimes he is aware of his limitations.

...
I do ignore large chunks of information.
...

But overall I have come to the same conclusion as you

For the avoidance of doubt, we all have limitations. Recognising what they are is the first step to not feeling downtrodden by "the elites" who do not have the same limitations.

Awe, you do care. You're just like mass media taking these little quotes of mine.  I won't be made stupid by stupid commentary. Look at you with this drivel again about your superiority complex. You and Donald Trump would be best friends but you'd only have to figure out who's member was the shortest?

Bigotry is a disease and shouldn't be tolerated. I asked specifically for evidence that this entire class of people should be hated and got none. You stepped in to defend your comrade and got handed your rear. It's good for you to have friends. But you wouldn't jump into fire if jonny jumped into a fire now would you?

You accused me of "Whataboutism" and "Strawman" but were wrong and couldn't accept that. Then gave a whataboutism and strawman as a retort. If this were a battle of intelligence, well sir, you brought a toy knife to a gun fight. You are an elite, elite at being and old many shaking his fist at a cloud.
Man that cracks me up.

[Cyclotron]

With your people's treatment of others including people in my family, I see your statements of bigotry as not surprising.

If you want to see them in a new light, replace the words "cops", "ice" "leos" and so on with "indian", "african" "latino" or any other word used to label a group of people.

These are not equivalent identities morally or legally. No one can help the fact they are Indian, or African, or Latino. That's why the USA defines these things (as well as disability, age, etc) as protected classes against discrimination.

There is no universe in which a song hating on taxmen as a group (by the Beatles) is equivalent to a song hating on Africans... 

I don't believe you know what a protected class is by US law. Last I checked, it is is defined in the EOCC:
race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age, disability, and genetic information
pregnancy, sexual orientation, and gender identity are also included.

Hatred of people for the color of their skin or uniform is the same thing. Trust me, each one can be peeled off, one more painfully than the other.

The Beatles would be offended that you did that, you know that right? Defense of generalized hatred is disgusting. What excuses will you raise to allow more?
Cheers

[HuronKing]

With your people's treatment of others including people in my family, I see your statements of bigotry as not surprising.

If you want to see them in a new light, replace the words "cops", "ice" "leos" and so on with "indian", "african" "latino" or any other word used to label a group of people.

These are not equivalent identities morally or legally. No one can help the fact they are Indian, or African, or Latino. That's why the USA defines these things (as well as disability, age, etc) as protected classes against discrimination.

There is no universe in which a song hating on taxmen as a group (by the Beatles) is equivalent to a song hating on Africans... 

I don't believe you know what a protected class is by US law. Last I checked, it is is defined in the EOCC:
race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age, disability, and genetic information
pregnancy, sexual orientation, and gender identity are also included.

Hatred of people for the color of their skin or uniform is the same thing. Trust me, each one can be peeled off, one more painfully than the other.

The Beatles would be offended that you did that, you know that right? Defense of generalized hatred is disgusting. What excuses will you raise to allow more?
Cheers

Where is occupation on that list? No one bats an eye when anyone say "I hate all politicians."

[Cyclotron]

With your people's treatment of others including people in my family, I see your statements of bigotry as not surprising.

If you want to see them in a new light, replace the words "cops", "ice" "leos" and so on with "indian", "african" "latino" or any other word used to label a group of people.

These are not equivalent identities morally or legally. No one can help the fact they are Indian, or African, or Latino. That's why the USA defines these things (as well as disability, age, etc) as protected classes against discrimination.

There is no universe in which a song hating on taxmen as a group (by the Beatles) is equivalent to a song hating on Africans... 

I don't believe you know what a protected class is by US law. Last I checked, it is is defined in the EOCC:
race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age, disability, and genetic information
pregnancy, sexual orientation, and gender identity are also included.

Hatred of people for the color of their skin or uniform is the same thing. Trust me, each one can be peeled off, one more painfully than the other.

The Beatles would be offended that you did that, you know that right? Defense of generalized hatred is disgusting. What excuses will you raise to allow more?
Cheers

Where is occupation on that list? No one bats an eye when anyone say "I hate all politicians."

Lol
Ok Boomer
 I knew you wouldn't get it. Hate is hate man.

You know that the acceptance of hatred is a primary cause of violence acted out on the people that you accept hatred for? Probably not. Move along.

[Sorama]

Lol
Ok Boomer
 I knew you wouldn't get it. Hate is hate man.

So is stupidity.

[tom66]

This is unhinged, comparing hatred of politicians to racism is a new crazy to me.  Hating politicians is a political opinion and it isn't anything close to being racist or sexist.

I mean, it's a strange position to hold a hatred of all politicians given there are certain to be some morally good ones in the swamp, but I don't think it's even close to comparable to any statement such as hatred towards someone because of their race or ethnic origins.

And, a politician can just stop being a politician at any time, as many do.  You can't stop being black or being female (biologically).

[Simon]

With your people's treatment of others including people in my family, I see your statements of bigotry as not surprising.

If you want to see them in a new light, replace the words "cops", "ice" "leos" and so on with "indian", "african" "latino" or any other word used to label a group of people.

These are not equivalent identities morally or legally. No one can help the fact they are Indian, or African, or Latino. That's why the USA defines these things (as well as disability, age, etc) as protected classes against discrimination.

There is no universe in which a song hating on taxmen as a group (by the Beatles) is equivalent to a song hating on Africans... 

I don't believe you know what a protected class is by US law. Last I checked, it is is defined in the EOCC:
race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age, disability, and genetic information
pregnancy, sexual orientation, and gender identity are also included.

Hatred of people for the color of their skin or uniform is the same thing. Trust me, each one can be peeled off, one more painfully than the other.

The Beatles would be offended that you did that, you know that right? Defense of generalized hatred is disgusting. What excuses will you raise to allow more?
Cheers

Where is occupation on that list? No one bats an eye when anyone say "I hate all politicians."

Lol
Ok Boomer
 I knew you wouldn't get it. Hate is hate man.

You know that the acceptance of hatred is a primary cause of violence acted out on the people that you accept hatred for? Probably not. Move along.

Why don't you shut up for 5 seconds and let someone else get a word in edgeways in-between your insults.

[Cyclotron]

This is unhinged, comparing hatred of politicians to racism is a new crazy to me.  Hating politicians is a political opinion and it isn't anything close to being racist or sexist.

I mean, it's a strange position to hold a hatred of all politicians given there are certain to be some morally good ones in the swamp, but I don't think it's even close to comparable to any statement such as hatred towards someone because of their race or ethnic origins.

And, a politician can just stop being a politician at any time, as many do.  You can't stop being black or being female (biologically).

I agree, I made no such comparison.

[Cyclotron]

With your people's treatment of others including people in my family, I see your statements of bigotry as not surprising.

If you want to see them in a new light, replace the words "cops", "ice" "leos" and so on with "indian", "african" "latino" or any other word used to label a group of people.

These are not equivalent identities morally or legally. No one can help the fact they are Indian, or African, or Latino. That's why the USA defines these things (as well as disability, age, etc) as protected classes against discrimination.

There is no universe in which a song hating on taxmen as a group (by the Beatles) is equivalent to a song hating on Africans... 

I don't believe you know what a protected class is by US law. Last I checked, it is is defined in the EOCC:
race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age, disability, and genetic information
pregnancy, sexual orientation, and gender identity are also included.

Hatred of people for the color of their skin or uniform is the same thing. Trust me, each one can be peeled off, one more painfully than the other.

The Beatles would be offended that you did that, you know that right? Defense of generalized hatred is disgusting. What excuses will you raise to allow more?
Cheers

Where is occupation on that list? No one bats an eye when anyone say "I hate all politicians."

Lol
Ok Boomer
 I knew you wouldn't get it. Hate is hate man.

You know that the acceptance of hatred is a primary cause of violence acted out on the people that you accept hatred for? Probably not. Move along.

Why don't you shut up for 5 seconds and let someone else get a word in edgeways in-between your insults.

I didn't start the insults but I assume something I said got you in the feels. The police are here.