And again, all of this is free for the DS7000/MSO7000 at the moment.
Well yeah... You mean, for 3x the price of the equivalent 5000 plus the paid for bundle...
I'm not quite sure what your "3x price" statement is based on, but as stated before, the price difference between an MSO5014 with options bundle (1307.81€+712.81€=2020.62€) and a DS7014 with (free) options bundle (2616.81€) is less than 600€ (596.19€). You might argue that the DS7014 isn't an MSO, but actually the MSO5014 isn't really either, as the probe has to be bought separately (355.81€).
And again, all of this is free for the DS7000/MSO7000 at the moment.
Well yeah... You mean, for 3x the price of the equivalent 5000 plus the paid for bundle...
I'm not quite sure what your "3x price" statement is based on, but as stated before, the price difference between an MSO5014 with options bundle (1307.81€+712.81€=2020.62€) and a DS7014 with (free) options bundle (2616.81€) is less than 600€ (596.19€). You might argue that the DS7014 isn't an MSO, but actually the MSO5014 isn't really either, as the probe has to be bought separately (355.81€).
And again, all of this is free for the DS7000/MSO7000 at the moment.
Well yeah... You mean, for 3x the price of the equivalent 5000 plus the paid for bundle...
DS7000 is also missing AWG channels, only available on MSO7000
True. Yet IMHO built-in AWGs are usually somewhat gimmicky (typically only 5V and a few kSa memory) and nothing I would put pay any considerable amount of money for.
can be useful when bode plot feature is available
The Siglent SDS 1104X-E does have the bode plot function (only in combination with Sigelent Generators).
News from Batronix/Rigol:
Batronix told me, the missing Hi-Res Mode on 5000/7000 is known and would be fixed, probably..
I also did a request by Rigol/Germany if there is a promotion offer planned for the 5000 just like by the 7000.
Today´s answer was no, there were no offers planned for the MSO 5000 series.
Anyway, I´ve ordered a MSO5074, should arrive in 2-3 days.
The option bundle will be ordered when I´m confident with the scope.
I think you will enjoy the MSO5. It’s a great instrument. We already delivered many units and so far no “trouble”. Let us know your opinion when you get it!
Let us know your opinion when you get it!
I think, I´ll test it at work (Testfield technician) - much more capabilities as at home.
My impressions will be written here.
But behind the scenes:
Ahhh...why it doesn´t wonder me....
I bought a Siglent awg…
I think you will enjoy the MSO5. It’s a great instrument. We already delivered many units and so far no “trouble”. Let us know your opinion when you get it!
I would enjoy it if it is hackable? Do you know if it can be done.
I think you will enjoy the MSO5. It’s a great instrument. We already delivered many units and so far no “trouble”. Let us know your opinion when you get it!
I would enjoy it if it is hackable? Do you know if it can be done.
There’s one on my desk I don’t mind opening up and doing whatever anybody suggests to investigate further...
True. Yet IMHO built-in AWGs are usually somewhat gimmicky (typically only 5V and a few kSa memory) and nothing I would put pay any considerable amount of money for.
The rigol awg : 5Vpp/2.5pp at 50ohms, THD Sinewave 1% - My Siglent awg stays here…
@TopLoser:
Which model do you have ?
Maybe you see a difference to yours in Dave´s teardown vid (350Mhz)
@TopLoser:
Which model do you have ?
Maybe you see a difference to yours in Dave´s teardown vid (350Mhz)
4 channel 70MHz, bought from Batter Fly when they had a 10% discount.
I’m sure there won’t be a hardware difference otherwise the licence upgrades to 350MHz wouldn’t be feasible? But I can look.
I think you will enjoy the MSO5. It’s a great instrument. We already delivered many units and so far no “trouble”. Let us know your opinion when you get it!
I would enjoy it if it is hackable? Do you know if it can be done.
I'm curious too, any updates yet?
Does a license file and serial number help any hackers out there with RE?
I'm curious too, any updates yet?
Does a license file and serial number help any hackers out there with RE?
Sure! If someone takes the time and rip the fw to pieces, the licence file can be integrated or just changing the SN, then manually apply the licence.. it should be doable.
I think you will enjoy the MSO5. It’s a great instrument. We already delivered many units and so far no “trouble”. Let us know your opinion when you get it!
I would enjoy it if it is hackable? Do you know if it can be done.
I'm curious too, any updates yet?
Does a license file and serial number help any hackers out there with RE?
given the FPGA they have in there, they could be using secure code, and the licence file may be encrypted. What does the license file look like?
I would prefer a red, green, blue and yellow trace. Why is there a pink trace???
Bug Bonanza
Thanks for the vid Dave, hope the Rigol guys see it too….
What FW Version you got ?
My 5000 will arrive on Saturday, so I can compare with it.
(Edit: After posting there´s no fallback to the thread, that´s irritating)
I would prefer a red, green, blue and yellow trace. Why is there a pink trace???
Because we are inclusive.
People ask about differences between 'A' brand and 'B' brand scopes. That video sums it up pretty well. Poor attention to detail. Mostly not even bugs, just bad design - copying competitors without really understanding what's important.
How did anyone think that decode display makes sense? - useless "D:" marks wasting over half the screen space, unuseably small gaps between logic channels, nonfunctional colour selection, poor UI choices (label entry).
What FW Version you got ?
I show it in the video at 33:21
1.01.02.03
Hardware 1.00.000
I had later firmware but could not figure out how to load it.
People ask about differences between 'A' brand and 'B' brand scopes. That video sums it up pretty well. Poor attention to detail. Mostly not even bugs, just bad design - copying competitors without really understanding what's important.
How did anyone think that decode display makes sense? - useless "D:" marks wasting over half the screen space, unuseably small gaps between logic channels, nonfunctional colour selection, poor UI choices (label entry).
Yep, and this is just the stuff I happened to play with.
Started the video wanting to show some features, but I kept finding little niggly things everywhere.
More advanced scopes like these need a lot of attention to detail in software, and it's a
huge job.
I hope it gets better.