I doubt they care, and I wouldn't have a problem with that.
I am eager to hear feedback from His Majesty Keysight
It's a matter of principle. Nothing more.
I am eager to hear feedback from His Majesty Keysight
Ensure the best performance when using your InfiniiVision 1000 X-Series oscilloscopes/probes
Keysight is committed to supporting our customers and ensuring they make the highest integrity measurements possible. In a few situations the N2140/42A probe compensation has been found to drift. Keysight is working on a component modification to improve the performance of the N2140/42A probes and will communicate more as details become available.
To prevent drift from happening and to ensure the best possible measurement with your N2140/42A probes, Keysight recommends the following procedures for optimal probe compensation:
• Prior to making a measurement, power on and warm up the oscilloscope (with the N2140/42A probes connected) for a minimum of 30 minutes.
• When engaging and turning the N2140/42A probe’s adjustment screw, don’t excessively push down on the component.
• If the ambient temperature in the area in which the oscilloscope is being used changes more than 5 degrees C, the probe compensation steps should be repeated.
Does this scope have an intensity graded display like the 2000X? Does it have a hardware frequency counter (I saw in Dave's review of the 2000X that that model does not)?
EDIT: Also, is there a single unbiased and in depth review of this scope (comparing it to other models in it's class preferably) from anyone? I find it kind of strange that none of the big names who have received this (Dave included, sadly) haven't given it a real critical look in operation and comparison to other scopes @ similar pricepoints, though the teardown was nice. Is there something binding the people who received this scope from doing an in depth look at it in operation or something? I'm currently looking for something to replace my creaky-ass Siglent 1072CML and obviously I would like to have a "good name" (particularly since I'm an HP fanboy) but from where I'm sitting it seems like that's all you get for your money here, I would love to be proven wrong. What are the tangible and objective benefits here? When you buy a Mercedes over a Kia you get build quality and a good name but you also get performance. There's an odd situation here where the Kias (Rigol, Siglent, Instek) seem to have better performance over this Mercedes (again, I am dying to see a review or commentary that proves me wrong because deep down I want this thing).
Grab the 200 MHz SDS1202X-E and step into another class of DSO from your CML.
There'll be someone on the forum starting out that'll happily grab the CML off you and help subsidise the step up.
Grab the 200 MHz SDS1202X-E and step into another class of DSO from your CML.
There'll be someone on the forum starting out that'll happily grab the CML off you and help subsidise the step up.
Yeah, that's what I'm leaning towards but I would like to wait for a real in depth review of this Keysight before making any decisions. I don't need the 200MHz bandwidth, and the Keysight unit has 2Gsa/s whereas the 1202X-E only has 1 (tho the Keysight has a smaller memory). I also just don't like the way the Siglent looks, it seems chintzier than my 1072 (which honestly has held up fine, it's just ungodly slow) and it's a dumb complaint but the pink second channel looks silly. The knobs also look cheap and it seems like they changed them from the regular 1202X, maybe to cut costs. I will also miss the "bonus" digital channel the Keysight has, which seems like one of the big plusses in it's favor. The UI of the Siglent looks great however and I like that the wide screen is actually taken advantage of with 14 horizontal divisions that are perfectly square, a proper hardware frequency counter that's always on in the upper right, and a generally uncluttered display. Why are these things so hard for some other manufacturers to do?
If the Siglent had a 4 channel model of the 1000X series (with independent controls) for a few hundred dollars more it would be a no brainer though. There's the Rigol 1054Z and Instek 1000B but the former seems sluggish and has a cluttered UI/annoying single vertical control and the latter looks like it was designed by a crack head for twenty dollars
If the Siglent had a 4 channel model of the 1000X series (with independent controls) for a few hundred dollars more it would be a no brainer though. There's the Rigol 1054Z and Instek 1000B but the former seems sluggish and has a cluttered UI/annoying single vertical control and the latter looks like it was designed by a crack head for twenty dollars
There is also Micsig TO1074 (I own to1104) . Anyway, I recommend try all scopes you interested in and pick the one that suits you best. Also be sure to use latest firmware available.
Personally I would never use a scope like that, I like real knobs and buttons.
Do you get wafers with it?
There is also Micsig TO1074 (I own to1104) . Anyway, I recommend try all scopes you interested in and pick the one that suits you best. Also be sure to use latest firmware available.Personally I would never use a scope like that, I like real knobs and buttons.
There is also Micsig TO1074 (I own to1104) . Anyway, I recommend try all scopes you interested in and pick the one that suits you best. Also be sure to use latest firmware available.Personally I would never use a scope like that, I like real knobs and buttons.You'll change your mind within 5 minutes when using a scope with a good touch screen UI (*). Human brains are much better wired for using a touch screen than knobs.
(*) I had a short play with a recent Keysight S-series scope a couple of weeks ago but the touch screen interface didn't impress me much becuase it was more like a replacement for using a mouse.
There is also Micsig TO1074 (I own to1104) . Anyway, I recommend try all scopes you interested in and pick the one that suits you best. Also be sure to use latest firmware available.
Personally I would never use a scope like that, I like real knobs and buttons. I wish I lived somewhere close to a Keysight or Siglent dealer with some kind of showroom but Florida is a wasteland for that kind of thing.
There is also Micsig TO1074 (I own to1104) . Anyway, I recommend try all scopes you interested in and pick the one that suits you best. Also be sure to use latest firmware available.
Personally I would never use a scope like that, I like real knobs and buttons. I wish I lived somewhere close to a Keysight or Siglent dealer with some kind of showroom but Florida is a wasteland for that kind of thing.The US Siglent site lists these guys as Florida reps:
http://www.dbm-marketing.net/contact.html
Are these the sort of people to be bothered to set up a demo for one guy looking for a $4-600 scope for his own workshop?
I have a pretty good idea of how the 1202X(E) operates and what it's strengths and weaknesses are, there are several in depth reviews etc.
PS I suggest a four channel model (even if it comes at cost) for two reasons: 1) differential measurements (remember all channels connected to the ground, you cannot just connect probes in arbitrary way) 2) I often have multiple DUTs it's convenient to dedicate, say, channel 4 for quick-n-dirty measurements without disconnecting probes from the main device.
PS I suggest a four channel model (even if it comes at cost) for two reasons: 1) differential measurements (remember all channels connected to the ground, you cannot just connect probes in arbitrary way) 2) I often have multiple DUTs it's convenient to dedicate, say, channel 4 for quick-n-dirty measurements without disconnecting probes from the main device.
Really the two analog plus one digital channel of the Keysight is fine for my uses, of course ideally I would like a 4 channel model, and I'm looking really hard at the Siglent 2102X which Saelig has on sale for just under $800. I'm just not sure I want to spend that much on a Siglent (no offense Siglent employees, insert any Chinese brand there and I feel the same)
PS I suggest a four channel model (even if it comes at cost) for two reasons: 1) differential measurements (remember all channels connected to the ground, you cannot just connect probes in arbitrary way) 2) I often have multiple DUTs it's convenient to dedicate, say, channel 4 for quick-n-dirty measurements without disconnecting probes from the main device.
Really the two analog plus one digital channel of the Keysight is fine for my uses, of course ideally I would like a 4 channel model, and I'm looking really hard at the Siglent 2102X which Saelig has on sale for just under $800. I'm just not sure I want to spend that much on a Siglent (no offense Siglent employees, insert any Chinese brand there and I feel the same)They're a big step from CML and ~twice the physical size. To get one fully spec'ed (DC, FG, LA) will cost a lot more but you'd probably never want anything better. Yep, I have a 2304X as my personal unit.
PM me you you want to know more.
PS I suggest a four channel model (even if it comes at cost) for two reasons: 1) differential measurements (remember all channels connected to the ground, you cannot just connect probes in arbitrary way) 2) I often have multiple DUTs it's convenient to dedicate, say, channel 4 for quick-n-dirty measurements without disconnecting probes from the main device.
Really the two analog plus one digital channel of the Keysight is fine for my uses, of course ideally I would like a 4 channel model, and I'm looking really hard at the Siglent 2102X which Saelig has on sale for just under $800. I'm just not sure I want to spend that much on a Siglent (no offense Siglent employees, insert any Chinese brand there and I feel the same)They're a big step from CML and ~twice the physical size. To get one fully spec'ed (DC, FG, LA) will cost a lot more but you'd probably never want anything better. Yep, I have a 2304X as my personal unit.
PM me you you want to know more.
I just went back and looked and the model I was talking about that was $800 was a 2 channel, for some reason I had a brain fart yesterday. All the 4 channel models of that series are definitely out of my price range and if I was going to get a 2 channel Siglent I would spend half of $800 and get the 1202X-E. I am not sure why Siglent has a big gap of nothing where a cheap 4 channel model should be to compete with Rigol and Instek.