Does the Siglent SDS5000X provide more features besides a higher sample rate, sample memory and individual knobs for each input channel?Other HW differences:
Smart system cooling fan.
Active probe support.
10 MHz ref in/out capability
VGA out
1 additional USB A port
so only the SDS5000X has Nth edge trigger and two channel triggers like qualified, delay and setup/hold.
It´s getting "better" :
A few days ago, I´ve used the "online chat" to ask them, when will my already payed item arrives…
Positive thing, I got immediately an answer.
Next week, in this case this week…
Do I now get an update of my order status ? No…
Tomorrow we´ll have wednesday, I don´t think I´ll got it in this week.
There are a few more important differences between the SDS2000X+ and the SDS5000X. Only the SDS2000X+ has 10bit mode (limited to 100MHz) and an internal waveform generator. But the 5000X has averaging and ERES in HW as acquisition feature while ERES is a math function on the SDS2000X+ (slowish and limited to two channels). Also only the SDS5000X has Nth edge trigger and two channel triggers like qualified, delay and setup/hold. Plus, only the 5000X comes with proper probes (only the SDS2354X does, but it costs nearly as much as the SDS5034X). Not so important in the light of certain scripts, but also only the SDS5000X currently comes with all SW options for free (than again, you still need the digital probes and the external USB AWG to use the according features).
I certainly can be wrong, because I never had a spectrum analyzer with a tracking generator, but for amplitude you could measure the correct amplitude with the spectrum analyzer and then connect to the scope and measure the amplitude attenuation with it. Point-by-point. Then normalize in Excel. But that only solves half of the problem, the “easy part”.
After thinking a little bit about the problem I taught of a simple method for measuring the phase shift of the scope at each frequency. But to get it to work you need a single channel signal generator, with a output clock or output trigger connected to the input trigger of the scope, and the signal generator must generate a single cycle sinusoidal burst. The scope will measure a low frequency signal in REF_A in terms of time delta against a varying high frequency signal. Do some averages, and you must use the coursers to compare the 1/4 wave top’s. You have to correct for the fact that you are comparing the phase of two different frequency signals. The logic is that the low frequency signal will be residually affected by the scope transfer function when compared to the high frequency signal, so you can use it as a reference for phase measurements.
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The trigger difference would be only an update far away to be the same....
Doesn't the Logic OR trigger allow triggering on multiple channels ?
I wish I had a better quad set of probes, you at least get their 200MHz rated set though with the 100MHz scope
Doesn't the Logic OR trigger allow triggering on multiple channels ?But that's not the same as a qualified trigger that triggers after an event on channel A followed by an event on channel B. The bigger LeCroys can cascade multiple events on different channels but at least the SDS5000X inherited the simpler two channel triggers from the WS3000.
I wish I had a better quad set of probes, you at least get their 200MHz rated set though with the 100MHz scopeBandwidth isn't my only concern. I also understand that the probes delivered with the 100MHz and 200MHz models are cheapish switchable 1x/10x probes that don't even support probe detection though the scope does.
Doesn't the Logic OR trigger allow triggering on multiple channels ?But that's not the same as a qualified trigger that triggers after an event on channel A followed by an event on channel B. The bigger LeCroys can cascade multiple events on different channels but at least the SDS5000X inherited the simpler two channel triggers from the WS3000.Dunno, haven't tried it.
Might be an interesting exercise along with a Zone and maybe Gate for someone that has one....I don't ATM.I wish I had a better quad set of probes, you at least get their 200MHz rated set though with the 100MHz scopeBandwidth isn't my only concern. I also understand that the probes delivered with the 100MHz and 200MHz models are cheapish switchable 1x/10x probes that don't even support probe detection though the scope does.Yep been meaning to ask what probes come with the SDS2204X Plus but keeps skipping my mind.
Hopefully it's the nice and bit cheaper 300 MHz 10x SP2030A.
You get the full shaft... PP215, same as the 100MHz less the datasheet is wrong
I rescind every bitchy comment i have made about zooming on a siglent... dave posted another video and caused me to realize something
nctnico... i give you a siglent that can zoom in AND out
I rescind every bitchy comment i have made about zooming on a siglent... dave posted another video and caused me to realize something
nctnico... i give you a siglent that can zoom in AND outAnd vertically.
I rescind every bitchy comment i have made about zooming on a siglent... dave posted another video and caused me to realize something
nctnico... i give you a siglent that can zoom in AND outAnd vertically.
Yeah.. its crazy that trigger mode with large memory actually works the way you would think it should... its just chinese setting it up ass backwards and not being automatic like you would find on everyone else lol
I do wish the refresh rate was faster... it really bogs down this 2k+ with 2 channels on and all digital io im only getting about 4-5 frames a second
I rescind every bitchy comment i have made about zooming on a siglent... dave posted another video and caused me to realize something
nctnico... i give you a siglent that can zoom in AND out
A little more, I can confirm that the 2074X+ is still the same HW, very same front end than a top 2504X+
If you can buy the 2074X+ with around 990USD, it's the Best value for money Although it will comes with a lowest 70MHz probe, I don't think anyone will care that anymore.
The BIG problem is that 2074X+ is not available outside China!
If not, that would definitely be a killer. (the probes... )
Why the hell they don't sell the 2074X Plus outside China?
Rigol won't sell anything anymore at that price.
Why the hell they don't sell the 2074X Plus outside China?
Rigol won't sell anything anymore at that price.
If look from Siglent's perspective, I can understand why they did that. There are many low-cost equipment in the Chinese market, including Rigol of course. Now Rigol is still much stronger than siglent, in terms of sales volume. Siglent must provide more cost-effective instruments than competitors to win more market share with new SDS2000X+, they must do this in china.
But outside, The 2104X+ is very enough to play like a killer. even Siglent sells it at about 1400USD outside, I believe it doesn't have much profit on it.
I rescind every bitchy comment i have made about zooming on a siglent... dave posted another video and caused me to realize something
nctnico... i give you a siglent that can zoom in AND outBut you need zoom mode for that. Look how cramped the display gets and the information from the zoom window doesn't add anything because you can't even see what is there.