I received my SDS2KX+ today and am trying to generate an option key on http://service.siglenteu.com/easyweb/ but simply nothing is being generated. Only some chinese text that translates to 'Getting' on google translate.
Anyone else having such an issue?
And does anyone know if that site even tells you if no match can be found to the filled information or any of that sort?
I received my SDS2KX+ today and am trying to generate an option key on http://service.siglenteu.com/easyweb/ but simply nothing is being generated. Only some chinese text that translates to 'Getting' on google translate.
Anyone else having such an issue?
And does anyone know if that site even tells you if no match can be found to the filled information or any of that sort?Do you have a pdf Option Card from Siglent ? (Attached is what one looks like. It has been redeemed/used)
It has the option code to enter into the option web page which will generate the option licenses.
If you have option licenses not on an Option Card you can enter them directly into the scope.
Note, the option codes and option licenses look very similar as they are both 16 character hexadecimal strings.
I received my SDS2KX+ today and am trying to generate an option key on http://service.siglenteu.com/easyweb/ but simply nothing is being generated. Only some chinese text that translates to 'Getting' on google translate.
Anyone else having such an issue?
And does anyone know if that site even tells you if no match can be found to the filled information or any of that sort?Do you have a pdf Option Card from Siglent ? (Attached is what one looks like. It has been redeemed/used)
It has the option code to enter into the option web page which will generate the option licenses.
If you have option licenses not on an Option Card you can enter them directly into the scope.
Note, the option codes and option licenses look very similar as they are both 16 character hexadecimal strings.
I was provided an option card (like the one you attached), but inserting the given authorized code into the web page gets me nowhere and I cant tell if it is rejected or if Siglent is having issues on their end.
So for me, it's not clear love/hate for those built in AWGs..
I don't know of any scope that has built in AWG that is not "toy".
They mostly have very limited capabilities, and low output levels..
I received my SDS2KX+ today and am trying to generate an option key on http://service.siglenteu.com/easyweb/ but simply nothing is being generated. Only some chinese text that translates to 'Getting' on google translate.
Anyone else having such an issue?
And does anyone know if that site even tells you if no match can be found to the filled information or any of that sort?Do you have a pdf Option Card from Siglent ? (Attached is what one looks like. It has been redeemed/used)
It has the option code to enter into the option web page which will generate the option licenses.
If you have option licenses not on an Option Card you can enter them directly into the scope.
Note, the option codes and option licenses look very similar as they are both 16 character hexadecimal strings.
I was provided an option card (like the one you attached), but inserting the given authorized code into the web page gets me nowhere and I cant tell if it is rejected or if Siglent is having issues on their end.OK, insertion by typing in or Copy/Paste ?
I have found using the scopes webserver the fastest and least error prone method of enabling options.
In particular, in some scopes the SCOPEID is difficult to see whereas Copy/Paste from the System Info page into the Easyweb page removes any chance of error.
The Easyweb page also allows for printing of each license code after license generation for convenient copies of each license and each has the instruction of how to insert licenses into the scope.
I will also check today with the factory if the Easyweb page is operating correctly....some hours yet before they are at work.
In the meanwhile all options are free for 30 trial uses so please just use the scope while we sort this out.
I don't know of any scope that has built in AWG that is not "toy".
They mostly have very limited capabilities, and low output levels..The signal generator in the RTB2004 is pretty capable. It can do different modulations, sweeps, bursts and logic signal emulation (I2C, Serial, CAN, SPI...) and can replace a separate unit for most tasks. The output levels are still pretty low though, but I find that to be an acceptable compromise for a built-in feature.
It is not like the signal generator in the SDS2k scope, which can only do static waveforms. The hardware seems capable enough (50MHz, 125Msps!), but the software really lets it down...
The scope part of the SDS2k is a different positive story
I received my SDS2KX+ today and am trying to generate an option key on http://service.siglenteu.com/easyweb/ but simply nothing is being generated. Only some chinese text that translates to 'Getting' on google translate.
Anyone else having such an issue?
And does anyone know if that site even tells you if no match can be found to the filled information or any of that sort?Do you have a pdf Option Card from Siglent ? (Attached is what one looks like. It has been redeemed/used)
It has the option code to enter into the option web page which will generate the option licenses.
If you have option licenses not on an Option Card you can enter them directly into the scope.
Note, the option codes and option licenses look very similar as they are both 16 character hexadecimal strings.
I was provided an option card (like the one you attached), but inserting the given authorized code into the web page gets me nowhere and I cant tell if it is rejected or if Siglent is having issues on their end.OK, insertion by typing in or Copy/Paste ?
I have found using the scopes webserver the fastest and least error prone method of enabling options.
In particular, in some scopes the SCOPEID is difficult to see whereas Copy/Paste from the System Info page into the Easyweb page removes any chance of error.
The Easyweb page also allows for printing of each license code after license generation for convenient copies of each license and each has the instruction of how to insert licenses into the scope.
I will also check today with the factory if the Easyweb page is operating correctly....some hours yet before they are at work.
In the meanwhile all options are free for 30 trial uses so please just use the scope while we sort this out.
I tried again today with exact same values and this time it did generate a license key which the scope also accepted. So it seems that it was some issue on their end.
On a side note:
About the web interface, I only have 1 ethernet port on my PC which is already in use. Has there been any experiences with an ethernet to usb adapter - do those things work flawlessly?
RTB2000 gen looks good on paper, in practice it is limited by output levels.
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I would hate for them to spend time on unimportant AWG...
RTB2000 gen looks good on paper, in practice it is limited by output levels.
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I would hate for them to spend time on unimportant AWG...OK, now we know you dont need it. Good for you. However, others may have other needs...
Yes, output levels are always limited . However 5-6Vpp is more than enough for many tasks: Interfacing logic, driving transistors, providing line audio signal, RF signals up to ~10dBm.
Adding an external amplifier or using a separate generator when needing higher levels is an excellent hardware trade-off. However gimping the siggen software just to sell a separate unit is not. So I would rather Siglent spent a little more time on giving the siggen some love.
Also being a bit imaginative, some unique and innovative scope/siggen features (like the Bode plotter) could be made: Trigging waveforms/bursts when scope trigs, modulate signal with scope input (BW limited of course).
No need to be snarky..
I'm speaking from position of my experience.. I don't speak from a position of what I like, but what I experienced in practice.
I can't pretend those are universal truth. So hence I use those words.
But, I do have a lot of experience, and work on many different types of projects (customers choose what I do), and I'm sharing that experience with people.
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And it would increase price, to the one of a scope, full AWG and integration. It would actually be more expensive than scope and awg separately..
So scope's AWG will stay simple for a while..
I just wish Siglent would make the software features worth the price of the siggen license.
R&S has more of a marketing approach: Lets see what gizmos can we add that will not cost much in BOM and they will be nice to see on datasheet, so we have "more stuff" than competition.. That is fine, but in practice, as I explained before, not necessarily very useful in real life. And you paid for it. You want for Siglent to give you all that development for free, but R&S made you pay for that additional AWG development through higher base price of instrument (and license to enable it), whether you use it or not.
And no need to man-splain it any further. I also have 20+ years of experience, but don't tell people what they don't need or want.
But you still don't get, that nobody wants to increase the price of the scope. I just wish Siglent would make the software features worth the price of the siggen license. And some other companies (e.g. R&S) have shown it does not need to be a "horrible user experience" (although some people probably still think so...).
I also have 20+ years of experience
R&S has more of a marketing approach: Lets see what gizmos can we add that will not cost much in BOM and they will be nice to see on datasheet, so we have "more stuff" than competition.. That is fine, but in practice, as I explained before, not necessarily very useful in real life. And you paid for it. You want for Siglent to give you all that development for free, but R&S made you pay for that additional AWG development through higher base price of instrument (and license to enable it), whether you use it or not.I have to disagree here. The waveform generator in the R&S RTM3004 (and probably the RTB2004 as well because it is closely related) is very useful. Yes, the amplitude is limited but it still allows to do an awful lot before you need an external function generator. IOW: it doesn't run out of steam that quickly with 10Vpp into a high-z load. Sure it costs extra for the hardware but it is not like it is useless if you get it as part of a package deal.
SDS2104X freshly received, all good but one minor detail - the select and level (small) rotational knobs are annoyingly behaving like contaminated with particles, something rubbing and scratching around when turned. I have not seen this from other Siglent equipment. Scope cal sheet says it is from the end of 09.2020. Anyone else has noticed similar? (And yes, yes, princess and the pea syndrome...)
R&S has more of a marketing approach: Lets see what gizmos can we add that will not cost much in BOM and they will be nice to see on datasheet, so we have "more stuff" than competition.. That is fine, but in practice, as I explained before, not necessarily very useful in real life. And you paid for it. You want for Siglent to give you all that development for free, but R&S made you pay for that additional AWG development through higher base price of instrument (and license to enable it), whether you use it or not.I have to disagree here. The waveform generator in the R&S RTM3004 (and probably the RTB2004 as well because it is closely related) is very useful. Yes, the amplitude is limited but it still allows to do an awful lot before you need an external function generator. IOW: it doesn't run out of steam that quickly with 10Vpp into a high-z load. Sure it costs extra for the hardware but it is not like it is useless if you get it as part of a package deal.And same thing with MSOX3000T siggen. It is quite capable, I got it for free as a part of bundle, and although it's there, I use it only in occasions I mentioned.
I mentioned that you can do quite a lot with them, and that any gen is better than nothing. But I wouldn't ever buy it as an option because I can get one helluva AWG for the money.
the select and level (small) rotational knobs are annoyingly behaving like contaminated with particles, something rubbing and scratching around when turned.