Hey guys I just got the RTM 3004 scope for the week any suggestions on what should I test ??
UI responsiveness? May be a few drop tests? "How electrically robust is your is yourmeteroscilloscope"?
Hey guys I just got the RTM 3004 scope for the week any suggestions on what should I test ??
UI responsiveness? May be a few drop tests? "How electrically robust is your is yourmeteroscilloscope"?UI responsiveness is no better than the 2004 - some aspects are fine but others can be really annoying (compared to Keysight) - buttons and touches getting missed, especially when the scope gets busier.
Mine's completely silent when in standby
Just got my RTB2004. Has anyone else noticed a high pitch whine when the scope is in standby mode (mains plugged in, but scope off)? It is rather loud compared to my working environment.
I wonder if someone did an unbiased comparison of the RTB2K vs. the Lecroy Wavesurfer 3000 as they should be roughly in the same price range, both have a touch screen and comparable features and memory sizes.
The main technical difference seems 10bit (R&S) vs. 8bit (Lecroy) and 2.5 GSa/s (R&S) vs. 4 GSa/s (Lecroy) sampling rate - where I would honestly value the sampling rate higher.
E.g. from browsing the manual, the R&S seems to miss a complex trigger feature while the Lecroy has a "Smart Trigger" which allows at least a bit of complexity. But maybe I'm mistaken regarding the R&S.
I'm also not sure if the search functions of the R&S come close to the "WaveScan" feature of the Lecroys.
Then again, I used a Wavesurfer 3000 at work and found it to be quite a bit sluggish (compared to a bigger Lecroy) and some things to be annoying like it entering the roll mode early on higher time bases.
At least from the videos I saw, the GUI of the R&S seems to be a bit sleeker.
I wonder if someone did an unbiased comparison of the RTB2K vs. the Lecroy Wavesurfer 3000 as they should be roughly in the same price range, both have a touch screen and comparable features and memory sizes.
The main technical difference seems 10bit (R&S) vs. 8bit (Lecroy) and 2.5 GSa/s (R&S) vs. 4 GSa/s (Lecroy) sampling rate - where I would honestly value the sampling rate higher.
E.g. from browsing the manual, the R&S seems to miss a complex trigger feature while the Lecroy has a "Smart Trigger" which allows at least a bit of complexity. But maybe I'm mistaken regarding the R&S.
I'm also not sure if the search functions of the R&S come close to the "WaveScan" feature of the Lecroys.
Then again, I used a Wavesurfer 3000 at work and found it to be quite a bit sluggish (compared to a bigger Lecroy) and some things to be annoying like it entering the roll mode early on higher time bases.
At least from the videos I saw, the GUI of the R&S seems to be a bit sleeker.
Anyway: any remark on the trigger system of the RTB2K? Like I totally love the multi stage trigger system of higher end Lecroys and when I last played with the smart trigger of the WS3K it seemed to offer at least two conditions with a timing to allow something like triggering on the 2nd edge that occurs within 20ms or so. At least from reading the manual of the R2BK it's unclear to me if something like this could be achieved with the pattern trigger.
Admittedly I really only used WaveScan in higher end Lecroys and not in the WS3K series but having e.g. hundreds of adjacent periods for analysis is something completely different than being able to trigger on a period.
I mean, it's not rocket science but it saved me from exporting data and running scripts on it in some cases.
And I don't care for a large deadtime if heavy analysis is done on the whole capture buffer and wouldn't want to sacrifice it for the pseudo-analog look of the Keysight DSOX scopes that can only perform analysis on the frame buffer. In the end, every scope has a deadtime during analysis. I understand that there are two different ideologies there and I'm clearly on the Lecroy side of it.
Anyway back on topic: do these scope let you DISPLAY a measurement trace? for example, i've set up "frequency" measurement, "frequency" trace should show a horizontal segment on each wave cycle, the level of the segment is the frequency of the wave cycle
Anyway back on topic: do these scope let you DISPLAY a measurement trace? for example, i've set up "frequency" measurement, "frequency" trace should show a horizontal segment on each wave cycle, the level of the segment is the frequency of the wave cycle
Yesterday found a feature of the new 2.0 firmware. And it has an effect!
The orange trace is a math trace with the formula 5*duty(B)/100
this is a very useful feature in both the pico and the keysight, i'd like to know if the RTB/RTM had that feature
(what's with the deep measurement thing? is it only on the new beta? i tend not to run the beta because i have a lot of crashes compared to zero with the stable application. also, if it's what i think it is, i suppose i won't need that as i'm using an older 2000A series with 48 kpts of memory, it always uses the full trace for decode+measurements)
DeapMeasure is only in beta so far. It works by measuring few important params for every single period in buffer (or across all buffers) and creates statistic table. You can export it to XLS file directly and make statistical analysis. It has potential. We will see..
I have been using my Picoscope a lot lately. It's just much quicker for some things, and 24" screen is just awesome.... And math is very advanced. That helps a lot too... Also, custom probes are a fantastic thing...
All in all, while it cannot replace full blown scope all the time, it is well worth money I paid for it.
oooh.. very nice. That's one half of what wavescan does, indeed. The other half would be triggering on certain conditions.. which the pico can't do as it can only trigger on edges / windows of edges