I dislike the lack of transparency with the "Revive" version of the train test.
I prefer to see the full data not "I won't bore you with the technical stuff which is probably too hard for you".
I prefer to see the full video time lapsed including evidence of the brand new battery blister pack being opened and the batteroo being put on one specific battery and being inserted into a specific train and another battery out of the same pack being put into the other, and then both trains being run in an unbroken cycle so I can see for myself how it was done (as was done by Frank in his video). Gives confidence in the methods being used, so I can see that they haven't made any glaring "mistakes".
I dislike the lack of transparency with the "Revive" version of the train test.
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Well DHL has let us down. they missed their own ETA and the current status is "The Estimated Delivery Date is currently unavailable. Please try again later."
Oh well, at least they have arrived down under.QuoteSaturday, December 24, 2016 Location Time Piece
18 Customs status updated SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA 00:22
Dear Friends,
We want to wish you all a happy holiday season and New Year! We hope it’s filled with blessings & memorable experiences with loved ones. Thankfully, It has been an auspicious time for Batteroo. We are delighted to announce that we shipped all Indiegogo orders! If you're still waiting, you'll be getting yours soon. As a startup, we faced many obstacles to get to this stage, and we're thankful you patiently stood by us!
The good news doesn't stop. We launched a new website at www.batteroo.com. We look forward to sharing new testing and educational video content so that people can learn more about Batteroo, and how it can save you time, money & our environment by reducing the number of batteries in landfills. You can also order more Batteroo Boost sleeves on our products page.
We also wanted to address a few questions. First, we want to remind you that once you receive a tracking e-mail, your order has shipped. For some international orders, however, the tracking link may be broken at first. This is due to a delay after the products transfer from U.S. mail to international postal services. We have addressed the problem & your link will work within 3 days. This has no effect on your shipment time.
Some of you noted that the Batteroo sleeves were a tight fit in a few devices. Battery compartments are designed so batteries fit securly in devices, so a tight fit is expected. To get a better appreciation for our technology, the Batteroo sleeve and electronic components add a mere 0.35 mm (thickness of a fingernail) to the battery length, and 0.12 mm (thickness of a human hair) in thickness. There should be no issue with fit for most devices; however, a few device battery compartments leave absolutely no additional space. Just do your best to insert the sleeve without being forceful, and it should fit in most scenarios. We have addressed this further, as well as other user concerns in our best practice guide on our new website. Click here for more.
Many of you have also asked about the Energizer lawsuit. Based on a prior message, some of our customers may have believed that Energizer’s lawsuit against Batteroo’s use of the Batteriser name caused a delay in shipping products. This was not the case. Furthermore, the re-tooling of sleeves did not delay the shipment of our product.
Thanks again for supporting our campaign and making it such a success! You’ve helped us make history and get this groundbreaking technology out to the world.
Sincerely,
Batteroo
And even this might be not the case. I measured the output voltage for different input voltages with different loads, see the second diagram here. But it is interesting that the output voltage is pretty stable, regardless of the current, but still much less thant 1.5V. As mentioned by amyk, the reason might be that battery indicators still work.
I still think they have a product that might be useful for some niche applications. They should just post all data so that the user can decide. Couldn't find this output voltage behaviour on their FAQ or production description page. They might be even be able to sell their chip without the sleeve with a good datasheet.
And even this might be not the case. I measured the output voltage for different input voltages with different loads, see the second diagram here. But it is interesting that the output voltage is pretty stable, regardless of the current, but still much less thant 1.5V. As mentioned by amyk, the reason might be that battery indicators still work.
I still think they have a product that might be useful for some niche applications. They should just post all data so that the user can decide. Couldn't find this output voltage behaviour on their FAQ or production description page. They might be even be able to sell their chip without the sleeve with a good datasheet.That behaviour suggests a Vref that's not fully powered up at low Vin. I have a feeling it might not even be intentional, but they decided to go with it anyway...
NEW UPDATE!QuoteDear Friends,
Some of you noted that the Batteroo sleeves were a tight fit in a few devices. Battery compartments are designed so batteries fit securly in devices, so a tight fit is expected. To get a better appreciation for our technology, the Batteroo sleeve and electronic components add a mere 0.35 mm (thickness of a fingernail) to the battery length, and 0.12 mm (thickness of a human hair) in thickness. There should be no issue with fit for most devices; however, a few device battery compartments leave absolutely no additional space. Just do your best to insert the sleeve without being forceful, and it should fit in most scenarios. We have addressed this further, as well as other user concerns in our best practice guide on our new website. Click here for more.
Sincerely,
Batteroo
In some remote cases, these guards can stop the Batteroo top spring contact to not make connection with the positive contact of the battery-operated device. As we identify these devices, we are going to have communication with their manufacturers to improve on their design parameters
Dear (insert name of huge multi-national consumer electronics manufacturer here),
my name is Dr Bob Rhubarb and me and my brother, Frankie Rhubarb, have made a game-changing device that will reduce the battery life of your products, but don't worry, no one will notice because it also screws around with the battery metering whilst simultaneously making the world a better place for polar bears and dolphins etc etc. The only problem is you haven't designed your products properly and they won't fit our ground-breaking technological wonder! Please redesign them immediately, and don't bollocks it up this time!
Thanks for your cooperation.
PS If you're wondering about my expertise in this field, let me reassure you; I once reduced the size of an iPhone charger by 50%..... I cut it in half LOL.
"In some remote cases, these guards can stop the Batteroo top spring contact to not make connection with the positive contact of the battery-operated device. As we identify these devices, we are going to have communication with their manufacturers to improve on their design parameters."
Quote"In some remote cases, these guards can stop the Batteroo top spring contact to not make connection with the positive contact of the battery-operated device. As we identify these devices, we are going to have communication with their manufacturers to improve on their design parameters."That's the funniest thing I've read all week - I wonder if it's bullshit or self-delusion?
Quote"In some remote cases, these guards can stop the Batteroo top spring contact to not make connection with the positive contact of the battery-operated device. As we identify these devices, we are going to have communication with their manufacturers to improve on their design parameters."That's the funniest thing I've read all week - I wonder if it's bullshit or self-delusion?
That's the funniest thing I've read all week - I wonder if it's bullshit or self-delusion?
"In some remote cases, devices do actually benefit from addition of a Batteroo. As we identify these devices, we are going to have communication with their manufacturers to improve on their design parameters so they don't need a Batteroo."
Quote"In some remote cases, these guards can stop the Batteroo top spring contact to not make connection with the positive contact of the battery-operated device. As we identify these devices, we are going to have communication with their manufacturers to improve on their design parameters."That's the funniest thing I've read all week - I wonder if it's bullshit or self-delusion?
Quote"In some remote cases, these guards can stop the Batteroo top spring contact to not make connection with the positive contact of the battery-operated device. As we identify these devices, we are going to have communication with their manufacturers to improve on their design parameters."That's the funniest thing I've read all week - I wonder if it's bullshit or self-delusion?
What's the return / refund / warranty policy on the Batterisers?
Is this a case where IGG backers get ignored?
Quote"In some remote cases, these guards can stop the Batteroo top spring contact to not make connection with the positive contact of the battery-operated device. As we identify these devices, we are going to have communication with their manufacturers to improve on their design parameters."That's the funniest thing I've read all week - I wonder if it's bullshit or self-delusion?
It's political.
By making such a statement, he pushes responsibility onto the manufacturers. When the manufacturers do nothing about it, the public won't blame Batteroo - whether or not Batteroo actually approach any manufacturers.
NEW UPDATE!QuoteDear Friends,
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Many of you have also asked about the Energizer lawsuit. Based on a prior message, some of our customers may have believed that Energizer’s lawsuit against Batteroo’s use of the Batteriser name caused a delay in shipping products. This was not the case. Furthermore, the re-tooling of sleeves did not delay the shipment of our product.
<...snip...>
Sincerely,
Batteroo
What's the return / refund / warranty policy on the Batterisers?
Is this a case where IGG backers get ignored?
You seem to be forgetting that when you back something on IGG, you are contributing a donation to a project, perhaps with the hope of possibly receiving a perk if everything goes successfully...
You are NOT purchasing a product!