No one will likely touch it without the patents.
I couldn't agree more.
Who would buy a company/product without security on the very element of value in such a deal?
This guy would! He could team up with the Batteriser crew!
Hmm, so their delays could be at least somewhat influenced by their approach to patents...
Not really. If the patent has been filed then it's theirs. Anybody using the IP runs the risk of being sued if they win the appeal.
So the "delays" aren't because of patents, other than them spending time messing about at the patent office instead of moving boxes of batterisers.
Then again, I'm sure they have a "team" for box packing and a separate "team" working on the patents. They certainly have "teams" for everything else. It's not just two guys in a tiny office, honest!
It seems to me that these guys didn't plan to deliver anything but instead they planned that someone fool enough with the money would buy their patents and paper-company, and the batteriser-guys would be off the hook with the new money in their pockets. The new proud owners of the batteriser-company would then have a pile of s**t in their hands and possibly obligation to deliver the devices which would never work as advertised.
It seems to me that these guys didn't plan to deliver anything but instead they planned that someone fool enough with the money would buy their patents and paper-company, and the batteriser-guys would be off the hook with the new money in their pockets. The new proud owners of the batteriser-company would then have a pile of s**t in their hands and possibly obligation to deliver the devices which would never work as advertised.
Yep.
It's obvious from their videos, etc. that they know
something about electronics.
It's also obvious from their videos that they
know Batteriser doesn't/can't work (testing a Batteriser is
very simple - two identical devices, one clock...no need for all that smoke and mirrors)
That makes them
liars.
They've also taken people's money so that makes them
thieves, too.
The comedy value of the videos plus Ali's macho chest beating and dumpster references are worthy of a thread here, but let's not forget what sort of people they are.
Once this project finds itself at its final resting place, what happens to the money they have collected?
The backers/saps/gulliblefools who provided the seed money and the VC money will be out of pocket, with the scammers off to spend whatever they have left that they squirrelled away from those looking for them. Probably move to another town, and rinse and repeat.
The backers/saps/gulliblefools who provided the seed money and the VC money will be out of pocket, with the scammers off to spend whatever they have left that they squirrelled away from those looking for them. Probably move to another town, and rinse and repeat.
No need to move. In SV these days, behavior like Batteroo's is regarded as an impeccable industry credential.
No need to move. In SV these days, behavior like Batteroo's is regarded as an impeccable industry credential.
Yep. After this he'll have 500 patents
AND a successful crowdfunding campaign on his CV.
So, effectively disabling the low battery warning in (potentially) a mission critical situation... e.g.emergency radios or lights - is a 'feature'?
OK Bob, if you say so.
Hmm, so their delays could be at least somewhat influenced by their approach to patents...
Not really. If the patent has been filed then it's theirs. Anybody using the IP runs the risk of being sued if they win the appeal.
But that's not the issue for Batteriser.
Their patent game isn't to stop anyone else coming out with the same idea, it is so they have something of value to sell.
Any company looking to buy Batteriser will do due-diligence on the patents to find out where they are at and see that it's essentially been rejected twice already. That should really scare them off.
I know a little bit about the patent system; my best friend is a former USPTO Examiner. They will not win their appeal. I absolutely 800% guarantee it.
8 times a normal guarantee… That’s impressive.
Can you substantiate that claim?
Perhaps by using a toy monkey to demonstrate.
I know a little bit about the patent system; my best friend is a former USPTO Examiner. They will not win their appeal. I absolutely 800% guarantee it.
using a batteriser to jack up from 100 % ?
The backers/saps/gulliblefools who provided the seed money and the VC money will be out of pocket, with the scammers off to spend whatever they have left that they squirrelled away from those looking for them. Probably move to another town, and rinse and repeat.
No need to move. In SV these days, behavior like Batteroo's is regarded as an impeccable industry credential.
No, it is not.
Based on some of the yoyos I meet, it would sure seem to be that way. If I meet another "Serial Entrepreneur" out of that little hamlet, I will probably vomit on their shoes. Granted, they probably had to head north because no one would hire them locally...
I know a little bit about the patent system; my best friend is a former USPTO Examiner. They will not win their appeal. I absolutely 800% guarantee it.
Even if it was an 80% chance of being rejected, and had a 20% chance of winning, no investor is going to touch it.
It seems that the only thing that will save Batteroo now is that magical order from Walmart or someone they have been trying to get.
Hi,
I don't recall if this has been covered before, they have added Sammy Saloum to their team. He was a VP with Radio Shack.
I assume that he is on their team to try and get the product into retail establishments.
Regarding investors, if they do the smallest amount of research they should find this thread....
Regards,
Jay_Diddy_B
Hi,
I don't recall if this has been covered before, they have added Sammy Saloum to their team. He was a VP with Radio Shack.
I assume that he is on their team to try and get the product into retail establishments.
Regarding investors, if they do the smallest amount of research they should find this thread....
Regards,
Jay_Diddy_B
Wow, quite a resume this guy has. Let's see... CompUSA, mismanaged and out of business. Radio Shack, mismanaged and bankruptcy....
I don't recall if this has been covered before, they have added Sammy Saloum to their team. He was a VP with Radio Shack.
I assume that he is on their team to try and get the product into retail establishments.
That's presumably what they had Warren Flick on the board for (Former K-Mart President), until, well, they either they gave him the Flick, or he left.
Hi,
I don't recall if this has been covered before, they have added Sammy Saloum to their team. He was a VP with Radio Shack.
I assume that he is on their team to try and get the product into retail establishments.
Regarding investors, if they do the smallest amount of research they should find this thread....
Regards,
Jay_Diddy_B
Wow, quite a resume this guy has. Let's see... CompUSA, mismanaged and out of business. Radio Shack, mismanaged and bankruptcy....
I wonder if he was involved with Computer City which also had an untimely ending.
Next update is the factory was in that complex that was damaged by a land slippage.
LMAO!You should stop giving them ideas!
Unfortunately, due to a tragic heavy landslide in Shenzhen, China this week, we are now facing additional slight delays.