Do real people even use facebook ?
to much time on there hands. ( yes I have too time on my hands but none to waste )
From an alleged Frost & Sullivan Roohparvar interview dated July 2015:
VS: What kind of customer feedback mechanism do you have in place to ensure that the product development and innovation matches market and customer needs?
BR: From the start, Batteriser is committed to maintaining a strong online presence, which will allow for customers to contact us whenever they’d like. Consumers will be able to reach out to us through our web site, via e-mail, and via social media like Facebook and twitter....
From an alleged Frost & Sullivan Roohparvar interview dated July 2015:
VS: What kind of customer feedback mechanism do you have in place to ensure that the product development and innovation matches market and customer needs?
BR: From the start, Batteriser is committed to maintaining a strong online presence, which will allow for customers to contact us whenever they’d like. Consumers will be able to reach out to us through our web site, via e-mail, and via social media like Facebook and twitter....
To help understand I have inserted some comments..
and a couple of extras
BR: From the start, Batteriser is committed to maintaining a strong online presence, [similar to that of ruthless dictator], which will allow for customers to contact us whenever they’d like
We may not respond, but that's our prerogative, as 'we're very busy'. It will not help.
We will respond at our leisure, with marketing weasel words, on our schedule.
We will use phrases like 'Within a few days, we'll provide an update to give our customers a little peace and assurance.' or 'We'll be posting an update very soon'.
We have not forgotten our indiegogo* customers.[although we are trying hard]' and even 'We do see the value in having some photos to show you all, so we plan on including some in our future updates'.[being careful not to commit or promise]
Meanwhile, you are free to copy and enjoy the photos of Probes and the Batteroo team.
Consumers will be able to reach out to us through our web site, via e-mail, and via social media like Facebook and twitter...
[Reaching out won't help. At our discretion, your messages will be deleted or not answered...] to free up our time to concentrate on ourholidaysdevelopment activities.
You may like to get in touch with our Contract Manufacturers (Wan Hung Lo Global Ltd) to verify the production and shipping schedule.. I'll post these details in our next scheduled update.
Jay_Diddy_B
*indie money comes, and outde money go-go's - whoosh, like magic. Teknology is wonderful to make silicon valley millionaires!
Isn't it right in the backer agreement that there are no guarantees of anything?
Scam or not this isn't a legal issue, at least not for indegogo.
Does Indiegogo have much power to do anything? What can they do
They can't do anything. Batteroo already have the money.
Maybe Batteroo has the money - but aren't there non-financial actions they could take?
Talk about the riding the wambulance a little too far. Isn't it right in the backer agreement that there are no guarantees of anything? Scam or not this isn't a legal issue, at least not for indegogo.
What the backers needed before handing over the cash was the proper tools to identify another questionable product, from the get go and not after the animal has bolted, common sense trumps any app by the way.
Anyway, so far it's been very entertaining and educational, and I can't wait for them to finally ship something that can be probed properly. It's the moment of truth, we are waiting for bob to put his cards on the table.
This thread now has more replies than the 2nd through 5th place threads in EEVBlog Specific combined O0 I suppose Dave can be grateful of Batteriser Batteroo for stimulating such popular discussion.
How does this rank in terms of replies on the entire forum?
Maybe not illegal, only a court can decide that, but IGG say scams are against their rules and we have pointed out to them this is a scam and yet they do nothing. IGG could have asked for some sort of verification this is real since bob claims they have several prototypes.
Anyway, so far it's been very entertaining and educational, and I can't wait for them to finally ship something that can be probed properly. It's the moment of truth, we are waiting for bob to put his cards on the table.
Talk of class-action
Anyway, so far it's been very entertaining and educational, and I can't wait for them to finally ship something that can be probed properly. It's the moment of truth, we are waiting for bob to put his cards on the table.
I want them to ship. It will be an awesome teardown Tuesday.
So it looks as if the trademark issue is not holding up shipping:
IN THE UNITED STATESPATENT AND TRADEMARKOFFICE BEFORE THE TRADEMARK TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
JOINT REQUEST FOR ENTRY OF STIPULATIONS, SCHEDULE MODIFICATIONS, AND A PROTECTIVE ORDER On February 10, 2106 Energizer Brands, LLC and Batteroo, Inc.
"Batteroo, Inc. agrees to provide a sample of the product to be sold under the opposed marks after the product has been shipped to consumers. Batteroo estimates that shipment will occur in March."
So it looks as if the trademark issue is not holding up shipping:
IN THE UNITED STATESPATENT AND TRADEMARKOFFICE BEFORE THE TRADEMARK TRIAL AND APPEAL BOARD
JOINT REQUEST FOR ENTRY OF STIPULATIONS, SCHEDULE MODIFICATIONS, AND A PROTECTIVE ORDER On February 10, 2106 Energizer Brands, LLC and Batteroo, Inc.
"Batteroo, Inc. agrees to provide a sample of the product to be sold under the opposed marks after the product has been shipped to consumers. Batteroo estimates that shipment will occur in March."
That's really interesting. It's one thing to dick around with the public and backers, it's another thing entirely to dick around with Energiser's lawyers.
I may be wrong, but following the timeline in that trademark schdule... it seems that Batteroo/Batteriser started the IGG campaign AFTER the initial trademark claims were lodged by Energiser - between March and June 2015.
The fact this action was not mentioned to potential IGG backers is 'interesting'.
It's also interesting that Energiser must have been 'looking' at Bob and family sometime prior to IGG for some reason. Oh to be a fly on the wall!