At the end of the day, if manufacturers would be able to work a small boost converter into their batteries and have it work like Batteriser claim, (albeit at the expense of some room ordinarily taken up by the battery chemistry itself) you'd think they'd have already developed such a product. A longer lasting Alkaline battery, in the same standard form factor, with less chemicals? The battery manufacturers would be all over it by now.
I doubt they could build 100k parts without taking a serious financial hit. They have only two choices, mass production (and sales) or nothing, and the first choice doesn't really stand a serious chance at this stage. I assume they know this though.
At the end of the day, if manufacturers would be able to work a small boost converter into their batteries and have it work like Batteriser claim, (albeit at the expense of some room ordinarily taken up by the battery chemistry itself) you'd think they'd have already developed such a product. A longer lasting Alkaline battery, in the same standard form factor, with less chemicals? The battery manufacturers would be all over it by now.Are you kidding? A battery costs less then $0,10 to manufacture, it sells for 10 times the cost and the sooner a consumer replaces a battery the more they sell.
After use they are disposed.
First of all it would make the product too expensive
Second they will sell less batteries.
Third the expensive electronics will be discarded after use, it makes no sense.
The last thing a battery producer will ever do is built an internal batteriser.
What they could do is build an external batteriser that will 24/7 drain the battery so it lasts shorter
I am not sure where your chemical math comes from but the chemicals in a battery are dirt cheap at the moment (think cents) and a dc-dc converter still costs tens of cents at the minimum.
But if you can do a BOM calculation of a complete pcb dc-dc converter doing just that and costing <10 cents @10Million pieces I think many companies are very interested
Note also they said they would ship in March, and in that one reply Bob slipped in "ship in late April" IF Bob even bothers to offeres any more information, any bets on if they change again and say it will be available in May?
It will be so disappointing if it just fades away. I was a least expecting a device that will work with low to moderate current devices. I know that this can be done in the available space, I have built one.(AA size)
I don;t "understand" the reason they are asking for refunds. Refund is when you buy something.
Alexander.
And yet, they're STILL selling them on their webpage, and they STILL ship in 30 days...
A failed Indigogo campaign isn't technically theft...
Selling a product that doesn't exist, and never will, on the other hand...
Edit: until you come to actually pay with paypal...
Disabled paypal account?
I don;t "understand" the reason they are asking for refunds. Refund is when you buy something.
Yep! More people not understanding that they are investors not customers! And a few barrack room lawyers thinking that they can sue! Hahahaha!
as a backer you were making a commitment to purchase X number of Y items at Z rate on the proviso that the campaign reached it's nominated goal
as a backer you were making a commitment to purchase X number of Y items at Z rate on the proviso that the campaign reached it's nominated goal
It's not exactly that. You're not making a production pre-order. You are investing in a high-risk venture, and you get "rewards" based on how much you put in. The nature of the reward depends on the people running the campaign. Usually, at a minimum, you get a copy of whatever is being produced, but if you put in more money you can get goodies like meeting the team, getting your name put somewhere, etc. It's a bit like donating money to a charity drive and they give you "prizes" in return.
But what you are not doing is engaging in a retail transaction: I give you money and you ship me a product. People seem to get confused on this point. Understandably so, because the first prize is usually a copy of the product -- so if everything goes well, the effect looks very much like a retail transaction.
There can be no lawsuit. These people willingly gave their money to Batteriser without doing their own due diligence (or even thinking it through for a moment) as an investment... A donation... There is no guarantee of ever receiving your perk. These backers seem to misunderstand that they didn't BUY anything, they may well never receive their "perks" for their donation...