The shitstorm nears... I'll get out my special popcorn.Whats so special about it? Is the corn kernels grown by nude virgins in the fields? Special type of seasoning.
It's 800% better than other popcorn as tested and confirmed by a certified monkey.
The shitstorm nears... I'll get out my special popcorn.Whats so special about it? Is the corn kernels grown by nude virgins in the fields? Special type of seasoning.
It's 800% better than other popcorn as tested and confirmed by a certified monkey.Does the butterier produce 800% more buttery popcorn?
The entire PCB could be a fake. It seems very suspicious that Yahoo Makers couldn't get the Batteriser to work at all.
I don't know why these conspiracy theories keep doing the rounds, ...
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Apart from this, the specs they mention to be "the product" simply cannot exist. You debunked it yourself.
Give it a break, you keep harping on and on about this.
You are wrong.
Many people and journalists come to this thread to learn about what's happening and to get some engineering fact and professional comment. We don't want it to turn into conspiracy theory central.
Apart from this, the specs they mention to be "the product" simply cannot exist. You debunked it yourself.
Please give some info about your high-respected "journalists" that saw "the product".
Now you're just talkin' crazy talk!
Of course the product can (and does) exist, it is a very simple concept which could be assembled by virtually anyone using off-the-shelf components!
It is simply not going to perform anywhere close to their claims!
Please give some info about your high-respected "journalists" that saw "the product".This has been discussed multiple times before!
Please go back and actually read the thread rather than harping on the same busted ideas over and over again.
It will be a boat that does not perform like the claims in staying above water, like the claims.
That's no boat.
Get the basics, learn something about specs and product development before saying I talk crazy.
Not meeting specs=no product.
Not meeting legal laws=no product.
No it's not, you are wrong agian, it always stopped with the story about those strange "high respected journalists"
It will be a boat that does not perform like the claims in staying above water, like the claims.
That's no boat.
That's a ridiculous analogy... It is a DC-DC converter. It will work as a DC-DC converter.
What makes you think I don't know the "basics, something about specs and product development?"
QuoteNo it's not, you are wrong again, it always stopped with the story about those strange "high respected journalists"I must respectfully disagree. This has been covered in depth multiple times before in this thread! : palm :
...just talkin' crazy talk! ... harping on the same busted ideas ...a ridiculous analogy... not bringing anything productive ... keep the bluster and noise down : palm :
You should calm down Galenbo.
..BUT there are existing product, there are some pictures that does lot come from batteroo (Le the one from the Yahoo article) it has been seen by people that are not from Batteroo.
there is a large difference between "no product" and "not work as marketed".
And you already know that this is basically a DC to DC converter, and that it's fairly easy to build one.
"the product" is not a DC-DC converter, you are wrong again. "the product" is the device that works like the specs they claimed.
But everyone else defines "product" as whatever it is that Batteroo ends up shipping to their backers/customers (if anything at all), whether or not it meets the specs (and nobody thinks it will).
Sure, that is not 100% proof, but the fact that you haven't seen it personally (which seems to be your standard) doesn't make 100% proof that it DOESN'T exist either.
If you aren't willing to accept the definition of "product" as everyone else is using that term,...
But everyone else defines "product" as whatever it is that Batteroo ends up shipping to their backers/customers (if anything at all), whether or not it meets the specs (and nobody thinks it will).If you use this definition, there is "No Product"
..And as I said, by YOUR definition of "product", I think just about everyone on this forum would agree with you that it doesn't exist. So what's the point in "debating" that?
Sorry to corrrect you, "seeing it personal" could help, but I never said or implied it is the only possibility.
It doesn't even have to be academically scientific or legally proven, even a simple measurement setup, with affordable recording could largely be enough.
I see 2 things happening here:
1) personal differences in what definition to use.
2) personal differences on how to prove that definition is reached.
... where the "product" has been seen/demoed to someone, it never seems to meet your standards, leaving me to believe that the only proof you would accept is a personal viewing.
1) Assembled device, fits, all components present, pcb present, works like described, provides output voltage under load
If I check the claimed miles per gallon / Litres per 100Km of my car (or any car I've ever owned), I'm pretty sure that my car doesn't achieve the manufacturers claimed specs. But it still exists (I can see it outside) and it's still a product.
..As long as we can agree and understand that we are talking about two different definitions, I don't see why we have to debate this any further.