Not quite. In the Pacific Northwest they have storms which knock out the power for a week. No electricity can't drive the car.
Or what about in California where we are having wildfires. Drive home and hope to charge the batteries at night but a wild fire knocks out the power to a neighborhood. Car's not getting charged. Then the police tell everyone to evacuate and you jump in you car to find the batteries haven't been charged. Now you are toast.
That old crap again People don't want a car which can do 98% because that would make it a waste of money. Real example: a while ago my wife and I travelled about 2800km along various destinations in Europe in a couple of days. With our car that took 26 hours of driving in total. If we would use an e-Golf with a range of 200km while driving 130km/h (real 130km/h) then we would have needed to charge 14 times which takes at least 30 minutes each time. That would have added at least 7 hours extra to the travelling time, make the trip take one day longer and make the time needed to travel over 25% longer. If you still insist that an EV is better then you are completely mad.
That old crap again People don't want a car which can do 98% because that would make it a waste of money. Real example: a while ago my wife and I travelled about 2800km along various destinations in Europe in a couple of days. With our car that took 26 hours of driving in total. If we would use an e-Golf with a range of 200km while driving 130km/h (real 130km/h) then we would have needed to charge 14 times which takes at least 30 minutes each time. That would have added at least 7 hours extra to the travelling time, make the trip take one day longer and make the time needed to travel over 25% longer. If you still insist that an EV is better then you are completely mad.
It is all about convenience of use.Yes, yes it is. EVs are much more convenient as anyone who actually owns one will tell you (and have told you but you like to pretend otherwise). Fill it up every night at home. No more need to waste time at gas stations.Until you want to travel far.... Read the review I linked to.Studies have consistently shown that > 98% of car trips are well within the range of most EVs (50 miles or less) and >99% within the range of the newest high rangeThat old crap again People don't want a car which can do 98% because that would make it a waste of money. Real example: a while ago my wife and I travelled about 2800km along various destinations in Europe in a couple of days. With our car that took 26 hours of driving in total. If we would use an e-Golf with a range of 200km while driving 130km/h (real 130km/h) then we would have needed to charge 14 times which takes at least 30 minutes each time. That would have added at least 7 hours extra to the travelling time, make the trip take one day longer and make the time needed to travel over 25% longer. If you still insist that an EV is better then you are completely mad.
That old crap again People don't want a car which can do 98% because that would make it a waste of money. Real example: a while ago my wife and I travelled about 2800km along various destinations in Europe in a couple of days. With our car that took 26 hours of driving in total. If we would use an e-Golf with a range of 200km while driving 130km/h (real 130km/h) then we would have needed to charge 14 times which takes at least 30 minutes each time. That would have added at least 7 hours extra to the travelling time, make the trip take one day longer and make the time needed to travel over 25% longer. If you still insist that an EV is better then you are completely mad.If that is the kind of journeys you do by car then don't buy an EV, but don't assume that your usage is representative off all other drivers. For example at age 31 the longest single-day journey I have driven or been a car passenger in is 532 miles (Fort William to Southampton, in current traffic about 9 hours 40 minutes),
Try to follow the news. During the summer holidays the highways of mainland Europe are constipated due to the millions of people using their car to go to their holiday destination abroad. Tell all of them to use an EV and watch their reaction.
Yes, I do know they do an electric Golf, I also know that when I went in the dealership to ask about it no one there knew much about it and the only statement I got was that there was about an 18 month waitOrdered Jan 2018, Delivered May 2018. it really wasn't that long a wait, but it's a popular car (36kWh pack) at a fair price.
I'll certainly consider an E-Golf when I eventually need a new car if the price gets better and hopefully they have a little more power. I do like my Golf's but it would be tough to give up the power and sound I currently have. Maybe I'll see your car at a swap one of these days.I've read a review on the e-Golf from someone who has driven it for about 20000km (in Dutch https://www.autoweek.nl/reviews/artikel/volkswagen-e-golf-2018-4/ ). In the winter the range drops to around 120km with the heating on and driving on the highway at 120 to 130km/h. In the summer the range increases to 270km when driving mostly 60 to 80km/h. Making longer trips requires planning to make it to charging points. Also the range indicator is way off. The author of the review wanted to go to Italy but decided to borrow someone else's car due to lack of charging stations. The author also had problems with occupied and out-of-service charging stations which nearly made him miss a boat (across the sea to the UK) and caused him to drive around with only 3% charge left when he got off the boat again.I like the way you selectively grabbed information to claim the 120km range. The author states that @ 130kmh into a headwind the range drops to 120km; and of course it does. The air resistance at 160kmph (130 + 30) air speed is 4x what it is at 80, and about double what it is at 115. I think you'd find your petrol/diesel consumption would go up similar amounts at high speeds into a significant headwind too.On a petrol/diesel car the range doesn't get halved by driving against the wind AND having the heater or airconditioning on. I'm just stating that the e-Golf has a very small battery pack so having some range anxiety is a good mindset especially if you want to make long trips with it in the winter.
Owning an automobile which fulfils the vast majority of my needs is much cheaper than trying to purchase and own something that fulfils every possible need every time. By your logic, everyone would own oversized minivans that seat 12 and carry 2 tonnes, because occasionally they may need to haul move house, or carry 12 people.
Not quite. In the Pacific Northwest they have storms which knock out the power for a week. No electricity can't drive the car.
Or what about in California where we are having wildfires. Drive home and hope to charge the batteries at night but a wild fire knocks out the power to a neighborhood. Car's not getting charged. Then the police tell everyone to evacuate and you jump in you car to find the batteries haven't been charged. Now you are toast.Ask residents of hurricane prone areas how well they fared with gas stations running out of gas. A plug in hybrid would be the best solution for that sort of emergency - being able to use either gas or electricity gives a lot of flexibility.
Owning an automobile which fulfils the vast majority of my needs is much cheaper than trying to purchase and own something that fulfils every possible need every time. By your logic, everyone would own oversized minivans that seat 12 and carry 2 tonnes, because occasionally they may need to haul move house, or carry 12 people.
Exactly. It's like the people who buy large SUVs because twice a year they go to the mountains go skiing....
Those who make this argument against EVs remind me of people 20 years ago saying that DSOs would never be mainstream because an analog scope will always be better for <insert niche application here>
It is all about convenience of use.Yes, yes it is. EVs are much more convenient as anyone who actually owns one will tell you (and have told you but you like to pretend otherwise). Fill it up every night at home. No more need to waste time at gas stations.Until you want to travel far.... Read the review I linked to.Studies have consistently shown that > 98% of car trips are well within the range of most EVs (50 miles or less) and >99% within the range of the newest high range
By your reasoning you'd be perfectly happy with a roof over your home which leaks when it is raining very hard. After all it only rains very hard a few times per year. Or a phone which drops 2 out of 100 calls. Or a tyre you need to inflate every week due to a small leak. Need I go on or do you finally get it?
Globally car sales are down.... way down.
Globally car sales are down.... way down. Ford plans on discontinuing sales of all cars with the exception of F-150 trucks and Mustangs.
Globally car sales are down.... way down.
Really?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/200002/international-car-sales-since-1990/
Or do you mean Ford's car sales?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/380104/global-vehicle-sales-of-ford/
Globally car sales are down.... way down. Ford plans on discontinuing sales of all cars with the exception of F-150 trucks and Mustangs.In the US car sales are way down, because in the US so many consumer vehicles (e,g, SUVs) are classified as light trucks instead of cars. To Ford, the F150 is not considered a car, and neither are all the SUVs they make for the US market. The migration from sedans to SUVs has hurt US car figures and boosted the light truck figures. In most of the world SUVs are considered cars, and the car sales numbers look pretty good. As far as I know Ford is only discontinuing "car" sales in the US. There seems no sign of them ending the sale of sedans, wagons and hatchbacks elsewhere. Although car sales in most countries are migrating to SUVs, it is not happening so fast that killing all sedans, wagons and hatchbacks makes sense for a large car maker.
This is worth saying agin.... Hard to beleive Ford one of the top three automobile/sedan/truck manfactures market cap is less than Tesla. Just means Tesla is perceived value is much greater than that of a one of the largest companies in the world.
This is worth saying agin.... Hard to beleive Ford one of the top three automobile/sedan/truck manfactures market cap is less than Tesla. Just means Tesla is perceived value is much greater than that of a one of the largest companies in the world.Not the current value. The market cap reflects the markets belief of future profits and value.
By your reasoning you'd be perfectly happy with a roof over your home which leaks when it is raining very hard. After all it only rains very hard a few times per year. Or a phone which drops 2 out of 100 calls. Or a tyre you need to inflate every week due to a small leak. Need I go on or do you finally get it?Your analogies are slightly besides the point, and you are probably aware of it. In contrast to a home confronted with a sudden heavy rainfall, or a phone call with random connection drops, I can plan ahead for a long car trip and rent a suitable vehicle for longer distances or larger transports.
Believe it or not, people are actually doing that routinely: They choose not to drive a truck for everyday use, but a small city car.