Meanwhile individuals are heavily subsidized to put solar panels on there roofs with the income inflation proofed for 25 years and now just to add insult to injury we are all to receive smart meters that will do nothing for the consumer except further inflate there bills and you guessed it they are subsidized from the electricity cost! Of course they will further increase the utilities profits as they will not have to read meters anymore.
In the United States/California we had smart meters installed 10 years ago. And aside from the folks wearing tin foil hats saying the radiation from the smart meters were going to kill all of and control our minds and give us cancer, (which hasn't happened so far), smart meters have turned out to be great for consumers.
First off a non-smartmeter consumers 3 watts of electricity. Do the math on that one and figure out how much electricity collectively we are saving with mullions of customers.
Second - Smartmeters allow us to monitor or electricity usage in 15 increments. We have time of use billing and electricity costs for the rate plan I am on rages from $0.12 to $0.49 kWhr. That smartmeter along with Time of Use Billing has allowed me to save between $50 and $75 per month on my electricity bill. Thank you power companies installing smartmeters.
Third - Smartmeter apps - There are a number of Smartmeter apps which allow me to monitor and control my electricity usage. This month these apps are allowing me to save another $12-$20 per month and we are still in the winter months.
Fourth - Smartmeters and solar are a good thing here. With out smartmeters we could only trade kWhrs with the power company. Meaning when solar/wind/biofuels produced 1 extra kWhr we would loan it to the power company. When we needed a kWhr the power company would give us that kWhr back. BUT NOT ANY MORE. - Thank you smartsmart meters. Now when I have one extra kWhr I can get to sell it to the power company at fair market value which can be as high as $0.87 kWhr for some rate plans. (The one I am on I can only sell at $0.48.) Now here's the great part..... When I need that kWhr back I have to "BUY" it back at fair market rate. Meaning I can buy that KwHr back from the power company at $0.12. That's a 400% return. YIPPIEEE! I get to screw the power company.
Fifth - Smartmeters allow me install less solar panels on my home. Let's say I use 10,000 kWhr per year. Without a smart meter I would need a solar system which would produce 10,000 kWhrs to offset 100% of my electricity usage. Let's say 40 panels would produce that 10,000 kWhrs per year. With a smartmeter, Time of Use Billing I can get 100% of my electricity from solar with only 20 panels or possibly with only 15 panels. Remember with a smartmeter I can get to "sell" power to the power company at $0.48 and buy it back later in the day/month/year at $0.12. So for every kWhr I sell to the power company for $0.48 I can buy 4 back at $0.12. Can you name any other investment where I can get a 400% return on my investment every day of the year?
Only possible with smartmeters.
Politics in your country with electricity may vary. But all I have to say is thank you politicians for allowing this to happen here in California.
It feels good to a poorly informed public. Its branded as a green product, and that's all you need to make lots of people feel good about using it.
By your reasoning you must be 14.
Check your facts because a lot of what you write is pretty much outdated.
If E10 was that bad it would have been banned.
You are just judging by a few data points which probably hint towards poor fuel quality from no-brand gas stations.
Yes, that is crap which I don't put in my car with or without ethanol. I always fill up with A-brand fuel (which usually can be found for the same price as the no-name brands).
Not true, 99% of nctnico's posts are spot on. He believes in (some sort of "recycled biomass") biofuels, so what?
Like recycling paper to save trees. Forget the trees are plantation grown
Like the people that buy hybrids that use more resources and energy in their production and have higher emissions from the materials that go into them than a regular vehicle and thin think they are doing something better than the guy who drives a regular IC vehicle
Another popular one right now is home storage batteries. I put one on the house and am a hero saving the world. forget the fact they have materials that are highly toxic in their mining and refinement, forget they are completely un economical and forget most of they can't be recycled.
Not true, 99% of nctnico's posts are spot on. He believes in (some sort of "recycled biomass") biofuels, so what?Are there 2 posters here with the same name?
Are you reading what the guy I have been addressing has been saying? You believe and agree with it?
The posts I am reading are clearly from someone whom has no clue about what they are saying but saying it anyway to push the cult religion they are indoctrinated to. And they say flawed and untrue things repeatedly.
The so what is why try to convince people of a load of bullchit? Recycled biomass is NOT a viable solution to energy problems. Trying to convince people of a lie is both pointless and counter productive. Unless the man has some vested financial interest like trying to peddle some product or service, telling people the world is going to be saved by biofuel makes no rational or logical sense.
Nowadays they can make ethanol from agricultural waste so no extra land is necessary. The so called 3rd generation bio-fuels. There are several factories in the US doing that on an industrial scale. And yes, there is enough agricultural wast to make a significant amount of bio-fuel. The beauty of it is that by using plant leftovers food gets cheaper because more parts of the plants are used. One of the companies is POET-DSM: poet-dsm.com A few pages back I posted a link to an article from around half 2018 with the industry wide status of these 3rd generation bio-fuels. I expect a larger scale roll-out of these factories in the next few years because it turns out to be a very profitable business with a quick return on investment. POET-DSM alone invested around 300 million dollars.
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/articles/15344/zero-to-10-million-in-5-years
The so called 3rd generation bio-fuels. There are several factories in the US doing that on an industrial scale. And yes, there is enough agricultural wast to make a significant amount of bio-fuel. The beauty of it is that by using plant leftovers food gets cheaper because more parts of the plants are used.
Not true, 99% of nctnico's posts are spot on. He believes in (some sort of "recycled biomass") biofuels, so what?
Not true, 99% of nctnico's posts are spot on. He believes in (some sort of "recycled biomass") biofuels, so what?
Spot on what?
When he's presented with the science (physics and chemistry) demonstrating what he believes is incorrect he says the science and experts are all wrong and what he believes is correct.
The so called 3rd generation bio-fuels. There are several factories in the US doing that on an industrial scale. And yes, there is enough agricultural wast to make a significant amount of bio-fuel. The beauty of it is that by using plant leftovers food gets cheaper because more parts of the plants are used.
Simple question that requires only a simple ( numeric) answer.
For every litre of Ethanol produced and delivered to end user, How many liters of petro fuels are needed from beginning to end including all oil by products such as fertiliser etc ?
This is the same guy that tried to convince us that the additional energy required to push an ICE car into a headwind was different than the energy to push an EV into headwind.
And then on YouTune there’’s an award winning high school physic teaching who has a video on “free energy”. He’s teaching studnets there is such s thing as “free energy” if it comes from the sun.
pointless as trying to convince people all the transport energy needs can be solved with biofuels.
3) How much energy (input) per gallon? <- this data is vital.
Do you know for sure that transformation of agricultural leftovers into fuel can't ever work? Why?
The so called 3rd generation bio-fuels. There are several factories in the US doing that on an industrial scale. And yes, there is enough agricultural wast to make a significant amount of bio-fuel. The beauty of it is that by using plant leftovers food gets cheaper because more parts of the plants are used.
Simple question that requires only a simple ( numeric) answer.
For every litre of Ethanol produced and delivered to end user, How many liters of petro fuels are needed from beginning to end including all oil by products such as fertiliser etc ?
Fertiliser is also a good point to bring up. At some point we'll also need to switch to non-fossil fuel fertiliser which are likely more expensive so this will make food more expensive. If we can use more of a plant (to make fuel) then the costs of the more expensive fertiliser are spread between food production and fuel production.
Fertiliser is also a good point to bring up. At some point we'll also need to switch to non-fossil fuel fertiliser which are likely more expensive so this will make food more expensive. If we can use more of a plant (to make fuel) then the costs of the more expensive fertiliser are spread between food production and fuel production.What about use treated sewage if it's only for fuel?
And then on YouTune there’’s an award winning high school physic teaching who has a video on “free energy”. He’s teaching studnets there is such s thing as “free energy” if it comes from the sun.
Fortunately for you, in my book, you also have one of the greatest teachers and most admirable men I have ever heard of.
This guy ought to be a role model and his achievements made known to every teacher in the world far as I'm concerned. If just 2% of teachers had the passion this guy has, not only would schools be a better place, but truly the world would be.
Don't know if this guy should be a teacher or a world leader.
Guess he's both already.
In the history of the United States we tried something similar which resulted in the killing of over 100 million Native Americans as we stole their land.