Now you are assuming electricity will be available in large quantities.
I'm also not sure about lower operating costs. This year I visited some schools where teenagers learn to be a car mechanic. None of them where teaching about electric cars. Only one had a Prius but they didn't use it because of safety reasons. This means you'll need to rely on a specialist for servicing your EV for the upcoming decade while you can take your ICE car to the garage around the corner. I posted it earlier in this thread: the maintenance costs for an EV are higher than that of an ICE based car.
I don't get where people get the idea that an EV has lower maintenance costs. It also has a gearbox, drive shaft, brakes, motor drive electronics and (usually) a cooling/heating system for the battery. It is not like an EV is less complex if you look at the entire car.
Only in some US states, where it averages $23 (I think per year). https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1116289_17-states-have-passed-extra-fees-on-evs-is-that-fair
Well that doesn't seem like much compared to approximately fifty cents per gallon tax on gasoline. That would have to go up considerably.
The reality is the cost of owning a vehicle will probably not go down. The more efficient they make things the cost seems to increase regardless. I remember when the price of real estate doubled during the 80's because more women were going to work. Now everyone has to work 100 hours a week to own a home. Nothing was really gained by having two incomes.
I don't get where people get the idea that an EV has lower maintenance costs. It also has a gearbox, drive shaft, brakes, motor drive electronics and (usually) a cooling/heating system for the battery. It is not like an EV is less complex if you look at the entire car.It's because EVs are less complex in terms of moving parts. Is an iPhone more complicated than a rotary phone? Yes, but its input electronics will probably last longer with no maintenance.
There's simply less that can be damaged.
I'm very familiar with those welds and EV manufacture in general and I have no idea what you're implying here. Do you think spot welds are particularly vulnerable to some kind of thermal failure? They're the last thing that fails in a battery pack IME - there is literally no structural load on them. I'd take spot welds over a fuel pump any day of the week.
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You know something no one has mentioned is what's in crude oil and refining. In every barrel of crude oil is gasoline, as well as jet fuel, white gas, diesel, and long hydrocarbon chains/grease.
It is very costly to break or elongate the hydrocarbon chains. In the past before there was a use for gasoline the gasoline was a waste product and dumped into rivers to get rid of it. So let's just say all ICE gas powered cars were eliminated. Our society still needs diesel and jet fuel to function. Bring up the questions.... what do we do with the gasoline? Pour it into rivers again?
Interesting crude oil can be easily and very economically turned into alcohol for human consumption. In the US we have a law which states all alcohol for human consumption must be radioactive. Why? If it is radioactive it means the alcohol was made for something which was recently living. If it were made from crude oil the radioactivity would have all decayed away by now. US Customs regularly finds non-radioactive alcohol being shipped to the US which is not radioactive. And of course they seize it. Last shipment I know of that was seized was not to long ago from Italy. It was wine - It was not radioactive, so it was made from crude oil.
Interesting crude oil can be easily and very economically turned into alcohol for human consumption. In the US we have a law which states all alcohol for human consumption must be radioactive. Why? If it is radioactive it means the alcohol was made for something which was recently living. If it were made from crude oil the radioactivity would have all decayed away by now. US Customs regularly finds non-radioactive alcohol being shipped to the US which is not radioactive. And of course they seize it. Last shipment I know of that was seized was not to long ago from Italy. It was wine - It was not radioactive, so it was made from crude oil.
QuoteInteresting crude oil can be easily and very economically turned into alcohol for human consumption. In the US we have a law which states all alcohol for human consumption must be radioactive. Why? If it is radioactive it means the alcohol was made for something which was recently living. If it were made from crude oil the radioactivity would have all decayed away by now. US Customs regularly finds non-radioactive alcohol being shipped to the US which is not radioactive. And of course they seize it. Last shipment I know of that was seized was not to long ago from Italy. It was wine - It was not radioactive, so it was made from crude oil.Wouldn't that make it easy to cheat by adding a trace of radioactive waste?
Interesting crude oil can be easily and very economically turned into alcohol for human consumption. In the US we have a law which states all alcohol for human consumption must be radioactive. Why? If it is radioactive it means the alcohol was made for something which was recently living. If it were made from crude oil the radioactivity would have all decayed away by now. US Customs regularly finds non-radioactive alcohol being shipped to the US which is not radioactive. And of course they seize it. Last shipment I know of that was seized was not to long ago from Italy. It was wine - It was not radioactive, so it was made from crude oil.
For every fact there is a counter-fact
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alcohol-radioactive/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alcohol-radioactive/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alcohol-radioactive/Reading the article you have to conclude that alcoholic beverages should be radio-active unless the label says it contains synthetic alcohol. But it is only an indirect requirement from the law because at this moment the radio-activity is the only way to determine whether the alcohol is synthetic or not. This definitely is a grey area.
If it is commercially viable to synthesize ethanol, I wonder how much of the ethanol used for fuel is actually made from oil and not from plants as they want us to believe.
Looks like Elon and Tesla has a competitor...… Anyone know anything about the Karma Revero?
Looks like Elon and Tesla has a competitor...… Anyone know anything about the Karma Revero?Each year there are new "Tesla killers" named by news outlets. Yet nobody is able to sell even remotely close numbers of electric cars except BYD in China. After all if you don't have the batteries needed, you cannot make a lot of electric cars with decent battery capacity. Not to say getting any profit.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-04/karma-revero-review-this-is-a-very-bad-car-and-here-is-why
Looks like Elon and Tesla has a competitor...… Anyone know anything about the Karma Revero?Each year there are new "Tesla killers" named by news outlets. Yet nobody is able to sell even remotely close numbers of electric cars except BYD in China. After all if you don't have the batteries needed, you cannot make a lot of electric cars with decent battery capacity. Not to say getting any profit.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-04/karma-revero-review-this-is-a-very-bad-car-and-here-is-whyThis review isn't very objective. The author just doesn't like the looks just like Dave doesn't like the look of GW Instek scopes.
Today I've seen they are actually building this near Frankfurt to power electric trucks:
It seems this 10km long test track is planned to be operational at the end of 2018. If they extend the system to the other lanes then cars can also use it. It would solve issues / lower costs when it comes to charging infrastructure, range and batteries.
The people at which this car is targeted at don't care. They simply want to have something different then anyone else.