An electric vehicle with clean energy sources will have very low lifecycle CO2 emissions. An ICE car can't do that.
An electric vehicle with clean energy sources will have very low lifecycle CO2 emissions. An ICE car can't do that.Wrong again. ICE cars can run fine on bio-fuel. FYI: in many western countries there is 5% (or more) bio fuel added to the fuel which is used. Bio-fuel is way ahead of EVs when it comes to CO2 reduction for transportation. And 3rd generation bio-fuel uses that parts of the plants we don't eat so don't go saying bio-fuel takes away food.
Brazil (where 50% of the fuel used is bio-fuel) is a good example why bio-fuel makes more sense than EVs. EVs are an expensive solution only few are willing to pay for -if they can-. Bio-fuel OTOH allows a gradual changeover and it doesn't cost extra. Any modern petrol engine can run on pure ethanol. Some of the flexi-fuel models can do this from the factory others will need a software update (or a device which alters the fuel injection timing).
And you are wrong about EVs not make a lot of sense.
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All of the land in California, Oregon, Washington, Airizona, and Nevada would be needed just to grow the bio-mass needed to power the cars in California.
Your questions are valid and here is the answer: Brazil has enough land to grow sugar cane without affecting the food supply for the people. In more densily populated areas more clever techniques are required and that is where the third generation bio-fuels come into play. 3rd generation bio-fuels are made from the parts of the plants which aren't food but just waste. The big advantage of 3rd generation bio-fuels is that they make food cheaper and don't need land specifically for creating bio-fuel. Based on the data at Poet-DSM's website I ran some numbers and you can get to near 100% fuel replacement when using efficient cars (say 100grams/CO2 per km) and just the agricultural leftovers.
And you are wrong about EVs not make a lot of sense.
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All of the land in California, Oregon, Washington, Airizona, and Nevada would be needed just to grow the bio-mass needed to power the cars in California.Just curious how many nuclear plants are the US now building so everyone can drive an EV in two decades?
Last I heard your country already has a lack of electricity in the summer when everyone uses their AC?
How can you advocate EVs when there is nothing done to support it ?
The other problem with biofuels is farmers will clear-cut forest land to grow biomass for biofuels. Using land once used for forest land and growing biofuel on actually causes more pollution. So in the end your are actually doing more harm using bio-fuel than good.
The other problem with biofuels is farmers will clear-cut forest land to grow biomass for biofuels. Using land once used for forest land and growing biofuel on actually causes more pollution. So in the end your are actually doing more harm using bio-fuel than good.Is reading so hard? Really?? Read carefully what I wrote about 3rd generation bio-fuels! Again: no extra farm land is needed to make bio-fuel!
Well, biofuels are way easy to adopt than BEVs as they're basically the same gasoline cars with a modified engine, and also can use the same network of filling stations. If 3rd+ generation biofuels were adopted worldwide, that looks like good news, but i don't see anyone rushing to it.
Still, from a pollution and energy use standpoint, BEVs look like the perfect city vehicle to me. But not really for long distances, at least without a distributed network of charging stations.
And to me, Green energy production is a must, either with BEVs or without them.
About nuclear energy, fission has some serious issues. The Sun uses fusion, however. That would do it, but sadly, is only in research, and seems to be a long way from commercial use.
This next year I plan on installing solar panels. Not to charge my car during the day, that would be stupid. Instead I can sell that electricity to the power company at $0.50 during the day, and then buy it back when the rates are low, $0.11 to charge my car.
While I see the value of solar panels as a short term fix, in the US the solar panel design and installation industry is for the most part a compete scam. They are grossly over selling the number of panels needed and this includes Elon Musk and Tesla.
What we really need is to get next gen nuclear figured out.
Well, biofuels are way easy to adopt than BEVs as they're basically the same gasoline cars with a modified engine, and also can use the same network of filling stations. If 3rd+ generation biofuels were adopted worldwide, that looks like good news, but i don't see anyone rushing to it.
The other problem with biofuels is farmers will clear-cut forest land to grow biomass for biofuels. Using land once used for forest land and growing biofuel on actually causes more pollution. So in the end your are actually doing more harm using bio-fuel than good.Is reading so hard? Really?? Read carefully what I wrote about 3rd generation bio-fuels! Again: no extra farm land is needed to make bio-fuel!But we.’ve run into issues we haven’t been able to solve with 3rd gen bio fuels. While at one time they looked promising they aren’t at this time. You have not addressed the issue of the amount of land needed for biofuels. Where are we to grow food and live if all of the land is used to propduce bio-fuels?
This next year I plan on installing solar panels. Not to charge my car during the day, that would be stupid. Instead I can sell that electricity to the power company at $0.50 during the day, and then buy it back when the rates are low, $0.11 to charge my car.Smart as long as it lasts. We had the same here but the end of payback is in sight. The problem is that the energy distributors can not handle the oscillations on their net, if the sun shines full they have an overload and have to switch off or power down the generators, but if their are clouds ten minutes later they have to switch on.
What they need is large batteryfarms to buffer this which is incredible expensive.
Then here in the winter the return of solar is only about ten % of the summer time, California is probably way betterQuoteWhile I see the value of solar panels as a short term fix, in the US the solar panel design and installation industry is for the most part a compete scam. They are grossly over selling the number of panels needed and this includes Elon Musk and Tesla.
What we really need is to get next gen nuclear figured out.Agree fully.
The other problem with biofuels is farmers will clear-cut forest land to grow biomass for biofuels. Using land once used for forest land and growing biofuel on actually causes more pollution. So in the end your are actually doing more harm using bio-fuel than good.Is reading so hard? Really?? Read carefully what I wrote about 3rd generation bio-fuels! Again: no extra farm land is needed to make bio-fuel!But we.’ve run into issues we haven’t been able to solve with 3rd gen bio fuels. While at one time they looked promising they aren’t at this time. You have not addressed the issue of the amount of land needed for biofuels. Where are we to grow food and live if all of the land is used to propduce bio-fuels?The plants for 3rd generation bio-fuels are up & running. No more problems to be solved. Just fine tuning and getting the cash to build more plants. Again: no extra land needed to make 3rd generation bio-fuels. Erase the thought of bio-fuels needing extra land out of your head. That is history.
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And unlike Tesla’s 1931 Pierce Arrow which he claimed ran on energy from the universe. One of these EV conversations companies is demonstrating it is possible to power cars from Energy from the universe.
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The other problem with biofuels is farmers will clear-cut forest land to grow biomass for biofuels. Using land once used for forest land and growing biofuel on actually causes more pollution. So in the end your are actually doing more harm using bio-fuel than good.Is reading so hard? Really?? Read carefully what I wrote about 3rd generation bio-fuels! Again: no extra farm land is needed to make bio-fuel!But we.’ve run into issues we haven’t been able to solve with 3rd gen bio fuels. While at one time they looked promising they aren’t at this time. You have not addressed the issue of the amount of land needed for biofuels. Where are we to grow food and live if all of the land is used to propduce bio-fuels?The plants for 3rd generation bio-fuels are up & running. No more problems to be solved. Just fine tuning and getting the cash to build more plants. Again: no extra land needed to make 3rd generation bio-fuels. Erase the thought of bio-fuels needing extra land out of your head. That is history.
The other problem with biofuels is farmers will clear-cut forest land to grow biomass for biofuels. Using land once used for forest land and growing biofuel on actually causes more pollution. So in the end your are actually doing more harm using bio-fuel than good.Is reading so hard? Really?? Read carefully what I wrote about 3rd generation bio-fuels! Again: no extra farm land is needed to make bio-fuel!But we.’ve run into issues we haven’t been able to solve with 3rd gen bio fuels. While at one time they looked promising they aren’t at this time. You have not addressed the issue of the amount of land needed for biofuels. Where are we to grow food and live if all of the land is used to propduce bio-fuels?The plants for 3rd generation bio-fuels are up & running. No more problems to be solved. Just fine tuning and getting the cash to build more plants. Again: no extra land needed to make 3rd generation bio-fuels. Erase the thought of bio-fuels needing extra land out of your head. That is history.Not sure what you are referring to when you say 3rd gen bio fuels, but from what I know there are very serious downsides to some types of bio fuels (palm oil based for example), while others are better (like ethanol). Bio fuels have their place if the world is going to stop using fossil fuels, but there is a limit to how much of that we can produce as well.
3rd generation bio-fuels use plant material we would otherwise let rot on the field. The earlier generation bio-fuels (like ethanol from sugar cane and palm oil) need extra land to grow. The EU is about to ban palm-oil for use as a bio-fuel. This will give companies incentives to produce more 3rd generation bio-fuels. The big advantage of 3rd generation bio-fuels is that we end up using more of the plants we grow for food. Think about how many plants we grow from which we only eat the seeds or fruits. I have explained this many times before and it amazes me how indoctrinated people are with 'bio-fuels = need more land = bad'.
How do you convert waste plant material to bio fuel?
I know there are many ideas out there, but is there any factories doing this commercially? (please provide links if so).
Otherwise I don't see how that is any different than solar storage solutions (better batteries, etc).
How do you convert waste plant material to bio fuel?
I know there are many ideas out there, but is there any factories doing this commercially? (please provide links if so).
Otherwise I don't see how that is any different than solar storage solutions (better batteries, etc).See poet-dsm.com (the DSM part is Dutch) but there are other companies as well who have a working process.
https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/poet-dsm-project-liberty