Then you should get one now since there are several available for which lifetime cost of ownership is less than equivalent ICE and even more convenient to refuel. But I suspect you are really more just out to make a political statement.
So everyone must be uninformed? BS!
If electric cars were more economical and more convenient, everyone would be driving them already.
People aren't stupid. Most go for least expensive option.
If you don't believe me, stand outside where there's a Target next to Walmart and you will see.
I doubt Formula 1 cars are only 30% efficient. They use very new ICE principles and have a limited amount of fuel. Besides that formula 1 cars have hybrid (electric + ICE) drive systems.
So what is the efficiency of a Foumula One car?
The reality is that NOTHING will ever be able to fully replace the ICE. The era of “Happy Motoring” where anyone and everyone could afford a vehicle powered by liquid fossillized sunshine and travel everywhere anytime is coming to a lose. Most people are either unaware or just unable or unwilling to accept it.
The reality is that NOTHING will ever be able to fully replace the ICE. The era of “Happy Motoring” where anyone and everyone could afford a vehicle powered by liquid fossillized sunshine and travel everywhere anytime is coming to a lose. Most people are either unaware or just unable or unwilling to accept it.
And we even didn't get to the costs part. The price difference of the EV compared to ICE gets you about 150k to 200k km further before break even at very high fuel prices using an efficient car. Factor in electricity at 20 cents per kWh then that distance will cost you at least around $6750 for the electricity (no, electricity from solar panels isn't free either). That buys you enough fuel for another 84000km. So the actual financial break even point is way beyond 250k km. By that time the battery of the EV is likely to have issues.
EV race cars are adding a new dimension to automobile racing.
But F1 cars are much faster, about 100 mph more than any FE, more powerful, weight much less and generate tons of downforce, and FE EVs run out of juice pretty fast, so there's no way an FE can do, say, 67 laps at Hockenheim, or a 1 1/2 hour race. In other words, there's no comparison.
And we even didn't get to the costs part. The price difference of the EV compared to ICE gets you about 150k to 200k km further before break even at very high fuel prices using an efficient car. Factor in electricity at 20 cents per kWh then that distance will cost you at least around $6750 for the electricity (no, electricity from solar panels isn't free either). That buys you enough fuel for another 84000km. So the actual financial break even point is way beyond 250k km. By that time the battery of the EV is likely to have issues.Show your work. Qualitative math is not useful here.
Going the same distance (180k km) in an electric car would cost you 32% as much, about $2900, if 75 kWh gets you 340 miles of range and electricity is 12.5¢/kWh. Many EV owners pay even less, 4-10¢/kWh. I don't see why you think it would take so long to break even.
Also, 20km/l is not "easy" for most ICE cars that aren't Priuses. That converts to about 47 mpg. Average mileage in the US is still less than 25 mpg, or about 11 km/l. There are very few people who would be worse off on the five-ten year timespan by buying an EV.
Gas in the EU is also much more expensive than $1/l... in Amsterdam it has been over $1.6/l for the past four months! That means your 180,000 km in a 47 mpg Prius will actually cost $15000, almost 5x as much as the electric car.
For that you can buy enough fuel to drive over 100k km with an efficient ICE car. All in all driving the EV is cheaper but around 44% and not 70%.
Is excise tax added to electric cars?
So what is the efficiency of a Foumula One car?
30% was the efficiency peak for old normally-aspirated V8 engines, current f1 cars have turbos and are hybrid, so must be more than that, closer to 50%.The reality is that NOTHING will ever be able to fully replace the ICE. The era of “Happy Motoring” where anyone and everyone could afford a vehicle powered by liquid fossillized sunshine and travel everywhere anytime is coming to a lose. Most people are either unaware or just unable or unwilling to accept it.
That, sadly, may be true.
It has used a version of its F1 engine in its new Project ONE road car, which has a thermal efficiency of 40%.
For that you can buy enough fuel to drive over 100k km with an efficient ICE car. All in all driving the EV is cheaper but around 44% and not 70%.Yes, and this is why we do not exaggerate by saying cars easily get 20 km/l and gas is $1/l. Electric cars have lower operating costs, lower sensitivity to global oil prices, and a multitude of other benefits at the expense of 10-20% higher initial costs.
Only in some US states, where it averages $23 (I think per year). https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1116289_17-states-have-passed-extra-fees-on-evs-is-that-fair
Only in some US states, where it averages $23 (I think per year). https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1116289_17-states-have-passed-extra-fees-on-evs-is-that-fair
Well that doesn't seem like much compared to approximately fifty cents per gallon tax on gasoline. That would have to go up considerably.
Also, 20km/l is not "easy" for most ICE cars that aren't Priuses. That converts to about 47 mpg. Average mileage in the US is still less than 25 mpg, or about 11 km/l.
You bring up an excellent point about taxes. EV vehicles are getting a free ride so to speak when it comes to taxes. As of July 1, 2019 Californians will be paying $.767 per gallon of gas in taxes. What do these taxes pay for? The maintenance of our roads and highways. If one owns an EV and does not buy any gas where's the money going to come form. If I recall correctly there is a tax on tires, (not much) which pays for road maintenance.
Is this the same in other countries?
At the moment, EV drivers aren't paying their fair share to maintain the roads they depend on.
I'd rather they threw some money at Phinergy to get aluminium air batteries for racing, assuming the Phinergy car wasn't a complete scam they already have the technology for useful power density and much higher energy density than lithium ion. Not a good battery tech for general purpose use, but ideal for racing.
Lithium Ion is a dead end.