QuoteIf it is to drive a non-Siglent AWG, maybe they can charge for it.Maybe ?
It's very unlikely command protocols will work with other brands.
When doing Bode plots the AWG is swept through many frequencies/second so commands must be correct.Plotting bode plot with a non-Siglent AWG is possible with a protocol translation software.
At certain point after getting the SDG1204X-E oscilloscope I wanted to know if it might be possible to use the bode plot function with a non-Siglent waveform generator.
After some researching and fuzzing I wrote a program in Python which acts as a small server. The oscilloscope connects to it using LAN and the program makes it think that it communicates with a genuine Siglent AWG. The program extracts the commands sent by the scope to the generator, parses them and translates to the command set, that the connected to the PC non-Siglent AWG is able to understand.
The video shows bode plot of an LPF with R=1kOhm and C=0.22μF. On the left you may see my program running on a netbook. For the first try I took the well known JDS6600 generator which is sold on eBay/AliExpress. Later I'll add drivers for two more AWG models.
I hope to have during the next weeks enough free time to publish the program on GitHub with detailed description on how it works.
@3:30
"oops fat fingers" moment is actually finicky, unpredictable universal knob and bad GUI
Some more vids on the SDS1kX-E models, just recently found:
Done by Jason from Siglent America.
I have SDS1104X-E with the latest firmware. Scope has good hardware with many features but it could be much better and less frustrating with better software.
There are two issues demonstrated @3:30
1. you can press function key to toggle through menu options but highlighted option does not take effect until x amount of time (sometimes never, IIRC) or you have to depress universal knob to select it.
Some more vids on the SDS1kX-E models, just recently found:
Done by Jason from Siglent America.
Just looking at how many hoops you have to jump through to put a measurement on screen (time=4:25 in the video).
Rigols just have a row on buttons down the left side. Press button, done.
Edited 1 minute later: oh, I forgot one thing which sooner or later I will have to take care of - very loud fan. My plan in to use some sort of "DC 12V Four Wire Thermostat PWM Fan Speed Controller Module"
and a quiet fan to replace the stock one(constant speed, loud one).
IMO, if Siglent really thinks that their software is finished then Rigol will be back on top as soon as they refresh 1000 series hardware.
What are you on about ?
You can't have 38 buttons for each of the measurements on each channel, instead you need use a menu to select the ones you want and then you can toggle them all (selected) ON and OFF with a single button.
You really need do more homework.
Does anyone have a change log for 7.6.1.20 R2? I just got this scope about a week ago and it seems to already have a never version than what is available on Siglent's website.
What are you on about ?
You can't have 38 buttons for each of the measurements on each channel, instead you need use a menu to select the ones you want and then you can toggle them all (selected) ON and OFF with a single button.
You really need do more homework.
You know you're not fooling anybody, right?
On a Rigol you have to press a button to switch between horizontal/vertical measurements, sure, and maybe another button to get less common measurements, but it's way faster/easier then going into a menu, twisting the twisty knob through a list of words then crossing your fingers it doesn't select a different value when you push it.
Plus you get little pictures of the measurements, not just names.
This:
vs. this:
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No contest. Rigol wins hands down.
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No contest. Rigol wins hands down.
No contest. Rigol wins hands down.Not for me, till Rigol is equipped with FRA (Bode plot) functionality.
Oh so you want to look deeper into the UI of these DSO's.
Shall we examine User definable Default and how that might assist ...
And yes, the universal know is touchy, but again after using the oscilloscope for some time I got used to it and can easily press the knob without disturbing it.
Overall Rigol seems to be better
Siglent's measurement selection 'window' is also obstructing display while selecting options.
Overall Rigol seems to be better at this since you want to make a quick selection and get back to working with a waveform, on the other hand I cannot think of a slower selection method Siglent could use then the current sequential access
Oh so you want to look deeper into the UI of these DSO's.
Shall we examine User definable Default and how that might assist ...
All I'm really interested in is how long it takes you to show (eg.) Vpp on screen when it isn't currently being displayed.
I don't think something so basic should need to be 'examined'. That smells of apologetics.
Here's how to do it on a Rigol DS1054Z:
Simple question: What's the shortest possible equivalent on a Siglent ?
Siglent's measurement selection 'window' is also obstructing display while selecting options.There's a Transparency setting in the Display menu, have you not found or used it yet ?
One usually has a preferred set of measurements you use and once selected they all remain as your preferred measurement types and all are returned to the display with a single press of the Measurement button.
Actually it does demand investigation !
Particularly WRT (...something completely unrelated, snipped)
Or will you continue the same MO in further efforts to have members react so they might also be banned ?
Disgraceful behavior and now moderators are aware of it they're unlikely to be duped again by your actions.
Rigol is trading screen space for faster measurement selection.
Overall Rigol seems to be better
But Rigol is more expensive.