Still, it looks like FLIR has achieved their goal with scare tactics. It's been several weeks since 2.x.0 was released, and there seems to have been no serious attempts to hack it so far.
I don't think it has anything to do with whatever Flir may or may not have done - the simple fact is the boat has mostly sailed.
Anyone interested in buying & hacking a camera will already have done so, and anyone looking now will try to get hold of a unit with older firmware, of which there are still a few around on ebay and probably also in distribution - 1.22 rwas eported on a unit from Amazon on Jul 11th.
(It would be interesting to know if Flir pulled old stock back like they did with 1.22, though we've had a report that an old unit updated by Flir to 2.3 is still hackable so maybe little point.)
The simple fact is that there are far, far fewer people with any need to hack the current firmware than was the case for the previous releases. Maybe once 2.3 has been around a while someone will have a serious crack at it, though by then the E4 may be using Lepton cores.
The listed product, a FLIR E4 upgraded to an E8 are all plainly counterfeit goods, as the sellers are selling goods that are counterfeit in that they are not authorized by the Manufacturer FLIR Systems. Further, the Seller is violating numerous laws in its willful selling of the counterfeit goods, including, but not limited to:
1. Violation of the Federal Copyright Act - The software on FLIR’s products is protected by copyright. See 17 U.S.C. § 101 et seq. Federal law prohibits unauthorized copying, reproduction, manipulation, modification, and commercial use of such software without FLIR’s permission. Id. § 101. Because FLIR has not granted the Seller such permission, Seller’s manipulation and modification of FLIR’s software, including its source code, to purportedly “upgrade” FLIR E4 devices for commercial profit is a willful violation of these laws.
2. Violation of the Federal Trademark Act and the Federal Lanham Act - Absent special licensing arrangements, FLIR has not authorized Seller to use its proprietary trademark(s) in connection with third party products and services, much less so for items that are being passed off for profit as official FLIR products when they are nothing of the sort.
3. Violation the unfair competition and false advertising provisions of the Federal Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C. § 1125(a)(1)(B) – Seller’s claim that the products sold – a hacked version of FLIR’s E4 marketed as a “FLIR Special Edition” or “E8++” – is superior to FLIR’s own E8 is baseless, false and misleading, and thus violates the unfair competition and false advertising provisions of the Federal Lanham Act.
4. Violation of FLIR’s Terms of Use – the product being offered is not a FLIR E8, the seller has impermissibly hacked, manipulated, and passed off an E4 as an E8+ to unsuspecting consumers. Introducing into the marketplace these unauthorized adulterated cameras under this false moniker will inevitably cause consumer confusion and injury, deceiving purchasers and users alike into believing the camera is authorized and backed by FLIR’s product support.
The listed product, a FLIR E4 upgraded to an E8 are all plainly counterfeit goods, as the sellers are selling goods that are counterfeit in that they are not authorized by the Manufacturer FLIR Systems. Further, the Seller is violating numerous laws in its willful selling of the counterfeit goods, including, but not limited to:
1. Violation of the Federal Copyright Act - The software on FLIR’s products is protected by copyright. See 17 U.S.C. § 101 et seq. Federal law prohibits unauthorized copying, reproduction, manipulation, modification, and commercial use of such software without FLIR’s permission. Id. § 101. Because FLIR has not granted the Seller such permission, Seller’s manipulation and modification of FLIR’s software, including its source code, to purportedly “upgrade” FLIR E4 devices for commercial profit is a willful violation of these laws.
2. Violation of the Federal Trademark Act and the Federal Lanham Act - Absent special licensing arrangements, FLIR has not authorized Seller to use its proprietary trademark(s) in connection with third party products and services, much less so for items that are being passed off for profit as official FLIR products when they are nothing of the sort.
3. Violation the unfair competition and false advertising provisions of the Federal Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C. § 1125(a)(1)(B) – Seller’s claim that the products sold – a hacked version of FLIR’s E4 marketed as a “FLIR Special Edition” or “E8++” – is superior to FLIR’s own E8 is baseless, false and misleading, and thus violates the unfair competition and false advertising provisions of the Federal Lanham Act.
4. Violation of FLIR’s Terms of Use – the product being offered is not a FLIR E8, the seller has impermissibly hacked, manipulated, and passed off an E4 as an E8+ to unsuspecting consumers. Introducing into the marketplace these unauthorized adulterated cameras under this false moniker will inevitably cause consumer confusion and injury, deceiving purchasers and users alike into believing the camera is authorized and backed by FLIR’s product support.
Introduction
You can sometimes pick up a bargain when you buy privately, perhaps through a 'small ad' in your local newspaper or on the internet. But beware. Buying privately does not give you as many rights as buying from a trader.
What the law says
Goods bought privately do not have to be of satisfactory quality or fit for any specified purpose. But they do have to be properly described.
Useful information
There is a legal rule which applies to all goods bought privately. It is called 'caveat emptor', which means 'let the buyer beware'. Because of this, any responsibility for buying goods which are faulty lies with the buyer, and not with the private seller.
If you're thinking of buying something privately, make sure you inspect it thoroughly before you buy. Bring a witness with you, preferably someone who knows a lot about the sort of item being sold. They should be able to spot any defect which you may miss. And they should also be able to testify how the seller described the item if you later need to take court action. Ask for any appliance to be switched on so that you can see it working.
Don't forget that your only legal safeguard is that the item being sold must be properly described. And so you should ask a lot of questions about its condition. You should also keep a copy of any advert. If the seller's answers or description later turn out to have been false, then you can claim your money back. For example, if the seller tells you that the car he is selling is two years old and it turns out to be four years old, then you are entitled to your money back because the car has been misdescribed.
Some traders try to pretend they are private sellers so that it will be more difficult for you to claim against them. If you suspect that you are dealing with a trader and not a private individual, do not buy! If he is hiding his true identity, you can be sure he is hiding some defect in whatever he is trying to sell you. Tell-tale signs include lots of 'small ads' with the same telephone number or if the seller tries to hide the fact that he has business premises by offering to bring the item round to your house. Also, contact Consumerline on 0300 123 6262. It is a criminal offence for a trader to try and give the impression in advertisements that he or she is a private seller. This is a particular problem with the sale of second-hand cars. The details will be passed to the Trading Standards Service who can investigate complaints about advertisements placed by so called "hidden traders".
What to do if you have a complaint
Complain first to the private seller if you later find that the item you bought from him was not as described. Point out to him that it is against the law to do what he did and ask for your money back. Or if you want to keep the item, ask him to pay for the repair of any defect.
If, despite your efforts, you haven't been able to sort out your complaint, you may have to think about court action. If the amount involved is not more than £3,000, you can take your case yourself to the Small Claims Court. Talk to Consumerline, your local Advice Centre or Citizens Advice about this before you ask your local court for an application form. For larger amounts, you should talk to a solicitor.
Quote4. Violation of FLIR’s Terms of Use – the product being offered is not a FLIR E8, the seller has impermissibly hacked, manipulated, and passed off an E4 as an E8+ to unsuspecting consumers. Introducing into the marketplace these unauthorized adulterated cameras under this false moniker will inevitably cause consumer confusion and injury, deceiving purchasers and users alike into believing the camera is authorized and backed by FLIR’s product support.
The also have the burden of proof that the consumers are being mislead about a sale of a product, but the seller should be honest and don't claim it's not an E4 since it is an E4. But I don't see why the seller couldn't state the improvements over the original equipment.
1. Violation of the Federal Copyright Act - The software on FLIR’s products is protected by copyright. See 17 U.S.C. § 101 et seq. Federal law prohibits unauthorized copying, reproduction, manipulation, modification, and commercial use of such software without FLIR’s permission.
2. Violation of the Federal Trademark Act and the Federal Lanham Act - Absent special licensing arrangements, FLIR has not authorized Seller to use its proprietary trademark(s) in connection with third party products and services, much less so for items that are being passed off for profit as official FLIR products when they are nothing of the sort.
3. Violation the unfair competition and false advertising provisions of the Federal Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C. § 1125(a)(1)(B) – Seller’s claim that the products sold – a hacked version of FLIR’s E4 marketed as a “FLIR Special Edition” or “E8++” – is superior to FLIR’s own E8 is baseless, false and misleading, and thus violates the unfair competition and false advertising provisions of the Federal Lanham Act.
4. Violation of FLIR’s Terms of Use
– the product being offered is not a FLIR E8
, the seller has impermissibly hacked, manipulated, and passed off an E4 as an E8+ to unsuspecting consumers. Introducing into the marketplace these unauthorized adulterated cameras under this false moniker will inevitably cause consumer confusion and injury, deceiving purchasers and users alike into believing the camera is authorized and backed by FLIR’s product support.
Since I don't want to edit my previous post, I want to state also that private sales are different than commercial sales.
Direct link to drivers: http://cdn.cloud.flir.se/swdownload/assets/other/flir_device_drivers.exe
Both x86 and x64 seem to point to the same file - correct me if I'm wrong.
thanks for this link nitroxide. (2 more months n it be 2014 october ha !)
i used the widely available info to "toy" with my E4 (thanks mike, aurora, DS etc.). and a certain youtube vid was very nicely done on this subject.
i made a blunder initially. i forgot to add in a LF after the CRC03. the device still booted (its a 1.22.0/1.1L), but it did not work fully as "intended", the menu was screwy, the image wasnt the full sensor array. when it booted, the splash screen has an additional *SPECIAL EDITION* wording to it (and a WIFI symbol popped on screen ... o my)
i did another edit n added the LF and a 2nd upload ( )
so ... what other nifty mods can i add to this very nice tool ? ( i saw a discussion on changing color palettes and add-on lenses ). i just wish FLIR sold E4 as a full uncrippled device and sold an E8 as a XGA resolution FLIR, hehe i must be dreaming right?
edit : and the new menu seems to work much faster, as i used the original menu for sometime before trying the mod. is there a "delay" string in original E4 code?
edit : reading the last few posts, so FLIR is going to clamp down on users who applied the mod ? or are they attacking the "chiefs" of this "mod".
edit : reading the last few posts, so FLIR is going to clamp down on users who applied the mod ?
They appear to be going after the people profiting off of the upgrades. The sellers on ebay that are upgrading the camera and making a profit off of the upgraded camera.
Hi,
with a software > 1.22.0 it seems to be the case a camera ressource node ".resmon.registry.config.hideGraphics " was included. This function hides the icons and the temperature-scale. My cam has 1.22.0 (now E8-standard). Does anyone know how to change the firmware-files to include this function and set it via telnet or durable in the file?
Is it necessary to update my cam to > 1.22.0 while risking to brick it?
Greetings,
Echo
I ordered an E4 last monday, on the CONDITION that it was a version 1.22 or below.
Distributor replied that he had a 1.21 in stock, which I promptly ordered...
May I please suggest that sales of E4's, upgradeable E4's and upgraded E4's be placed in the buy and sell section of the EEVBlog.
I ordered an E4 last monday, on the CONDITION that it was a version 1.22 or below.
Distributor replied that he had a 1.21 in stock, which I promptly ordered...
Where did you order it? I'm also based in The Netherlands and I gave up on my 2.x unit. If they still have them in stock I would be really interested.