I would start simple. A great simple starting point would be a VTVM. They generally have a dual diode tube and a dual triode tube. And best of all it's useful in the lab. That 564 would probably overwhelm you, especially with the plug-in's. And as I mentioned you should have a plug-in extender. They do show up on Ebay once in a while and a quick check shows one for 560 series for the stupid price of $50.00 USD. IMHO that's robbery.
You're trying to say that $50 for a 560 series is way too much? Or way too cheap? What would you consider to be a good price for a 560 series, meaning a balance between being too cheap and too expensive?
I would start simple. A great simple starting point would be a VTVM. They generally have a dual diode tube and a dual triode tube. And best of all it's useful in the lab. That 564 would probably overwhelm you, especially with the plug-in's. And as I mentioned you should have a plug-in extender. They do show up on Ebay once in a while and a quick check shows one for 560 series for the stupid price of $50.00 USD. IMHO that's robbery.
You're trying to say that $50 for a 560 series is way too much? Or way too cheap? What would you consider to be a good price for a 560 series, meaning a balance between being too cheap and too expensive?
Ah, thanks. I didn't read it carefully enough.
He was not referring to the price of a 560 series scope as such, but the price of an extender to help you trouble-shoot the 560 series plug-ins.
However nothing suitable cosmetically. Yes Xrunner you are right, it needs to look "factory" so as to look credible... otherwise the resulting appearance will do much more harm than good !
I mean the only reason I would like to replace the broken clip here and there is purely for aesthetic reasons nothing more. From a mechanical/functional perspective these broken clips have zero consequence, as by now the wiring harnesses are so stiff that they hardly need any support, it's not the clip holding the harnesses in place it's more like the other way around !
So I think the best course of action is to replace the broken one with identical ones from a donor scope, and if I can't find the correct size(s) that I need, might just super the two pieces of the broken ones back together again, for aesthetics.
OK so it can do clear plastic, that's good to know.... the ridges are a no-no so, too ugly, defeats the purpose...
Maybe make a little mold instead, and and poor that same clear plastic the printer is using, by hand into the mold.
I could make a mold (metallic/ reusable) of the "unfolded" clip, the exterior part of it, which is what you get to see. That would make for a flat surface for the inner part of the clip, but it's probably what it is anyway and if not... well who cares as you don't get to see it anyway, and it would still be plenty functional.
Then I could to fold it back onto itself, to "close" it, give its final shape, I could just apply some gentle, controlled heat using my hot air station to soften it in the middle, just enough for it to want to bend into position.
Metallic mold don't know how to make... I guess once I have made the CAD model for it, I can get it done easily by a DIY/consumer grade CNC machine, or just get it done by a professional shop somewhere.
Yeah sounds like a lot of fun, a nice winter project...
However nothing suitable cosmetically. Yes Xrunner you are right, it needs to look "factory" so as to look credible... otherwise the resulting appearance will do much more harm than good !
I got it right!
Well I'm glad I met someone more anal retentive than I am. I mean, if you went in and replaced all of the clips (so it all looks identical) with nice new plain white or black clamps it wouldn't be OK? I don't see how you can replace anything in the instrument with anything new (but a tad different looking) if your requirements are that stringent!
The origininal Pclips were made from a flat plastic strip with beaded edge. This was heated, folded around a mandrel and the screw hole punched.
A reasonable copy could be made by running a heated thin wall plastic tube under a wheel to flatten it and then forming it round a rod.
I would start simple. A great simple starting point would be a VTVM. They generally have a dual diode tube and a dual triode tube. And best of all it's useful in the lab. That 564 would probably overwhelm you, especially with the plug-in's. And as I mentioned you should have a plug-in extender. They do show up on Ebay once in a while and a quick check shows one for 560 series for the stupid price of $50.00 USD. IMHO that's robbery.
You're trying to say that $50 for a 560 series is way too much? Or way too cheap? What would you consider to be a good price for a 560 series, meaning a balance between being too cheap and too expensive?
Ah, thanks. I didn't read it carefully enough.
He was not referring to the price of a 560 series scope as such, but the price of an extender to help you trouble-shoot the 560 series plug-ins.
The origininal Pclips were made from a flat plastic strip with beaded edge. This was heated, folded around a mandrel and the screw hole punched.
A reasonable copy could be made by running a heated thin wall plastic tube under a wheel to flatten it and then forming it round a rod.
Hmmm, more ideas !
Yeah it sounds cool making new clips ! I don't think even Carlson went that far when restoring his old Tek scopes !
No you muppet the less DEAD the better. The works out to 25,000 less Canadians in the ground over the last year and a bit just to make it clear. And in the case of the USA that would be 650,000 less DEAD.
No one on the North American continent is in any place to lecture or give advice on lockdowns effectiveness. Yep we are over them but 'draconian' is complete frogshit!
Hunt for plastic P clips.
Yea P clamps, cable clamps - all over Ebay. I have a whole box full of different sizes like those but white.
Vince - I know how picky you are They ain't going to be exactly the same design, they ain't going to be exactly the same color. You have to decide how important that will be.
Thanks people. P clip it's called then... indeed lots of relevant matches on the web !
However nothing suitable cosmetically. Yes Xrunner you are right, it needs to look "factory" so as to look credible... otherwise the resulting appearance will do much more harm than good !
I mean the only reason I would like to replace the broken clip here and there is purely for aesthetic reasons nothing more. From a mechanical/functional perspective these broken clips have zero consequence, as by now the wiring harnesses are so stiff that they hardly need any support, it's not the clip holding the harnesses in place it's more like the other way around !
So I think the best course of action is to replace the broken one with identical ones from a donor scope, and if I can't find the correct size(s) that I need, might just super the two pieces of the broken ones back together again, for aesthetics. And BTW I don't understand the difference between aesthetics and cosmetics.... so just using the words interchangeably sorry ! I am sure you will get the message anyway, you are a clever bunch.
More motivation to look at getting a 3DP. Not yet; got something else to pay for shortly...
Cosmetics refers to the things that alter the appearance of something without necessarily affecting the function, aesthetics refers to the way the cosmetics fit in (or otherwise) with the general style and/or appearance of the object in question.
OK thanks. So cosmetics is just a down to the earth way of describing what state/condition something is in, hence is objective, whereas the aesthetics refers to the "artistic" aspect of an object, the beauty of it, which is irrational, subjective.
So to sum it up I guess I could say that my 575 has beautiful aesthetics but very poor cosmetics inside out ?!
No you muppet the less DEAD the better. The works out to 25,000 less Canadians in the ground over the last year and a bit just to make it clear. And in the case of the USA that would be 650,000 less DEAD.
No one on the North American continent is in any place to lecture or give advice on lockdowns effectiveness. Yep we are over them but 'draconian' is complete frogshit!
While I'm pleased that you can claim such numbers, it is my understanding that a large part of that difference with the rest of the world is the same as why you guys got every wave later than everyone else: geography vs population density.
Your government was, if anything, slower in implementing lockdowns that were absolutely necessary in the "western world" due to higher density in cities as well as higher density of cities, and a much larger number of travelers from ground zero regions, therefor a much broader interface for disease transmission from day one.
Also, that lower population density means that "draconian lockdowns" have a lot less economic and political repercussions, as much more of your population is already closer to "self-sufficient" and/or just plain crusty old bastards like me who hate having neighbors and already practice antisocial distancing anyways.
mnem
vote draconian.
Hunt for plastic P clips.
Yea P clamps, cable clamps - all over Ebay. I have a whole box full of different sizes like those but white.
Vince - I know how picky you are They ain't going to be exactly the same design, they ain't going to be exactly the same color. You have to decide how important that will be.
Thanks people. P clip it's called then... indeed lots of relevant matches on the web !
However nothing suitable cosmetically. Yes Xrunner you are right, it needs to look "factory" so as to look credible... otherwise the resulting appearance will do much more harm than good !
I mean the only reason I would like to replace the broken clip here and there is purely for aesthetic reasons nothing more. From a mechanical/functional perspective these broken clips have zero consequence, as by now the wiring harnesses are so stiff that they hardly need any support, it's not the clip holding the harnesses in place it's more like the other way around !
So I think the best course of action is to replace the broken one with identical ones from a donor scope, and if I can't find the correct size(s) that I need, might just super the two pieces of the broken ones back together again, for aesthetics. And BTW I don't understand the difference between aesthetics and cosmetics.... so just using the words interchangeably sorry ! I am sure you will get the message anyway, you are a clever bunch.
The original P clips will break just by looking at them and I doubt you'll be able to harvest very many good ones. I break them all the time and if necessary I'll use a cable tie in it's place or if the wiring harness is secure without any replacement I'll just leave it.
This is also why some of us have 3D printers and 3-4 minutes of CAD time
See what I mean? The last few days in this thread were great. On subject matter with some wanderings off topic, but right back on topic. Everyone was happy with unicorns an rainbows.
As soon as anything remotely politics comes up out come the claws and right down the shitter. So now we'll have to endure mea culpa's and WTF's back and forth until all egos are satisfied.
Just stop.
As to other peanuts COVID is NOT POLITICS it is public health!
As to other peanuts COVID is NOT POLITICS it is public health!
The origininal Pclips were made from a flat plastic strip with beaded edge. This was heated, folded around a mandrel and the screw hole punched.
A reasonable copy could be made by running a heated thin wall plastic tube under a wheel to flatten it and then forming it round a rod.
Hmmm, more ideas !
Yeah it sounds cool making new clips ! I don't think even Carlson went that far when restoring his old Tek scopes !
Then why make up non factual crap to defend poor performance of your adopted country and then be surprised when you get a response! You were so far away from any semblance of the truth and fact it was warranted.
So its you that needs to take that FUCKING chill pill and consider what you type and before you hit the key to post more
As to other peanuts COVID is NOT POLITICS it is public health
It's both forever intertwined which makes it a hot and contentious subject which can clearly be seen here.
Not anymore ..
STOP!
Then why make up non factual crap to defend poor performance of your adopted country and then be surprised when you get a response! You were so far away from any semblance of the truth and fact it was warranted.
So its you that needs to take that FUCKING chill pill and consider what you type and before you hit the key to post more
As to other peanuts COVID is NOT POLITICS it is public health!
My CHOICE to correct grossly inaccurate statements made about THIS country is well within my rights as a member of this forum and it is not either of your places to dictate otherwise.