eBay auction: #333406543805
I'd love to have just eBay's cut of that summitch.
mnem
*knocks self unconscious with a acquisition mallet*
I wonder if they also found it at the military dump.
Think the fee only applies to the first 1k slice? Not sure..
Top side of the pcb:
Interesting, you got an original agilent 1822-0639 in there. When you leave it connected to your PC, does it become hot? Is it still working ?
Was scammed by a car sales shithead in Emden. They sold a RR Discovery with a broken air suspension (which would not have been the problem). The real problem was that some italian hot shot managed to put in an ECU which was not programmed to the car, meaning that there was a VIN mismatch in 4 ECUs (the RR Discovery 3 has 23 ECUs in total) and RR does not provide reprogramming. If you try to program in a spare suspension compressor, the ECU will crosscheck the VINs and, if it finds a mismatch, will brick the car by activating the anti theft instant boat anchor program.
RR offered to swap out ALL ECUs (at up to 2500 quid a piece, that would have been a real bargain). To get access to some specific programming options, I would have had to drive the car (with the defunct air suspension) to London to some special RR shop to get some dudes to reflash those microcontrollers with an in system programmer.
Great.
This was a total write off. Either would have been a no go as the costs far exceeded the value of the car.
I am praying to Thor to smite that Emden guy with his hammer (or throw a meteor onto Emden, which ever is easier).
So now I have this specific car tester (Autel MD806) https://www.ebay.de/itm/Autel-MD806-Pro-Profi-Diagnoseger%C3%A4t-f%C3%BCr-45-Fahrzeugmarken-ALLE-SYSTEM-OBD2-MD808/183843777999?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
which I am taking along to every used car I look at. Found a couple of used cars that would have been real bad deals, so this thing has already paid for itself.
It does to crosschecking of error codes in all ECUs and is vendor specific and multi protocol. It also allows to reset oil change intervals and initiate catalytic converter cleaning cycles.
All in all, highly recommended for quick inspection of used cars and all those things you need advanced diag for. It does not do programming though, the programmers are ten times as expensive.
I went from CP/M & DOS straight to Win98. Have never once regretted the "missed opportunity" of all the intervening versions that looked and ran like they were written in QBASIC.
There was a nicer version of QBASIC called PDS 7, then VB DOS. Those were pretty awesome. I actually had a load of shit wired up in VBDOS to do automated testing once. Gorilla.bas in QBASIC was an insult to the capability of the platform.
I have nothing against QBASIC... for what it was, and the time it was, it did a great many things (some of them it even did WELL) and some really ingenious people made it do a LOT more than it should have ever been able to do. It was when assholes started to EXPECT to do all that magical shit, and started demanding MORE, that things all turned pear-shaped.
A friend of mine as a teen was a software engineer whose entire business revolved around custom-written POS/Ledger software written in BBX/BBX2. Sortof the misbegotten lovechild of HTML, QBASIC & COBOL, it essentially put a shinier coat of varnish on top of both so the finished product didn't look out of place in a Windoze environment.
But it could run either locally in a Windoze client OR as a thin client over WYSE terminals, and BBX kept all the secret sauce that made both work functioning and up to date well into the WinXP years. No idea how.
I suspect that is what a lot of the dev platform for Android felt like for the first 10-15 years...
mnem
*certified crusty old bastard-dwagon*
Oh fuck I jumped right into the android bandwagon when it first came out and it was much much much worse. Worst thing I ever worked on.
I still miss my BBC master. That thing was glorious. Tempted to buy another one but the prices are a little high now and no an emulator won’t cut it. You need the Alps keys.
If you're looking for a BBC, try the guys over at stardot.org.uk/forums . They trade at much more sensible prices, but make sure you buy a working one, because they were full of unobtainium custom IC's that are known to fail. I still have/use a BBC Master 128, the BUS access made them perfect for quick interfacing. I also still have an EPROM Burner for it.
McBryce.
If you're looking for a BBC, try the guys over at stardot.org.uk/forums . They trade at much more sensible prices, but make sure you buy a working one, because they were full of unobtainium custom IC's that are known to fail. I still have/use a BBC Master 128, the BUS access made them perfect for quick interfacing. I also still have an EPROM Burner for it.
McBryce.
Yeah well aware of the problems potentially. For a chunk of the mid to late 1990s I actually relieved schools of their kit here which was still stacked up, cleaned it up, repaired it and sold it on Yahoo Auctions and via Micro Mart magazine. Must have sold 100 units at least.
At peak I had a very nice mint condition Master 128 Turbo (65C102 coprocessor) setup with dual Cumana drives and Cub monitor. This was Econetted to my fairly hefty RiscPC.
Then I woke up one morning, realised this was a massive dead end, sold it all and went NT. Probably the best decision I made from a career perspective but not satisfaction!
Edit: some days I wake up and tell myself not to live in the past so much. Other days I wake up and find the future I'm living in is terrible. Life's a bitch
Was scammed by a car sales shithead in Emden. They sold a RR Discovery with a broken air suspension (which would not have been the problem). The real problem was that some italian hot shot managed to put in an ECU which was not programmed to the car, meaning that there was a VIN mismatch in 4 ECUs (the RR Discovery 3 has 23 ECUs in total) and RR does not provide reprogramming. If you try to program in a spare suspension compressor, the ECU will crosscheck the VINs and, if it finds a mismatch, will brick the car by activating the anti theft instant boat anchor program.
RR offered to swap out ALL ECUs (at up to 2500 quid a piece, that would have been a real bargain). To get access to some specific programming options, I would have had to drive the car (with the defunct air suspension) to London to some special RR shop to get some dudes to reflash those microcontrollers with an in system programmer.
Great.
This was a total write off. Either would have been a no go as the costs far exceeded the value of the car.
I am praying to Thor to smite that Emden guy with his hammer (or throw a meteor onto Emden, which ever is easier).
So now I have this specific car tester (Autel MD806) https://www.ebay.de/itm/Autel-MD806-Pro-Profi-Diagnoseger%C3%A4t-f%C3%BCr-45-Fahrzeugmarken-ALLE-SYSTEM-OBD2-MD808/183843777999?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
which I am taking along to every used car I look at. Found a couple of used cars that would have been real bad deals, so this thing has already paid for itself.
It does to crosschecking of error codes in all ECUs and is vendor specific and multi protocol. It also allows to reset oil change intervals and initiate catalytic converter cleaning cycles.
All in all, highly recommended for quick inspection of used cars and all those things you need advanced diag for. It does not do programming though, the programmers are ten times as expensive.
I feel for you, italians build cars with a lot of passion,way too much. Everybody knows what happens when you are wasted in love with somebody(thing).
I work for a big german car company. I quit the development job I hab because with all the security, anti theft, FUSI and so on it was impossible to bring a nice idea in production.
I am now happly a quality eng for prototypes, and I just have to bitch if I find errors.
Of course until a certain SOP was possible to diagnose the car, just send the right question on the OBD and you get the answer. In the future? Oh noo, we need to be secure. So only OEM tools will be albe to diagnose the car (after activating something). All the others will work just to fullfill the law (depends on the country). Complete access as before? #FORGETABOUTIT
Give me 5 years, I will drive only oldtimer and have a lift garage in my home. Problem solved.
Better, convert an old VW bus to E engine and use the solar panels at home.
So so sad.
#Right2Repair.
Yup. This is a big winner this one as well. Paid £470 (after £50 paypal offer and £50 CC cash back) for this. Was new sealed box manufactured April 2020. Got quad core Ryzen 5 pro, 8Gb RAM (not upgradeable but meh - it's fine for her), Radeon vega 8 graphics, 256Gb SSD, 1080p IPS screen, 4G LTE card installed (!), fingerprint reader, 3 years NBD service.
It's not the manufacturers fault. The regulations on exhaust gas and fuel consumption is what forces the car companies to require so much monitoring, realtime engine adjustment and exhaust treatment systems. No car company wants a vehicle that has so much complexity that it keeps having issues. That just makes them look bad, even if they do profit from the repair.
McBryce.
Yup. This is a big winner this one as well. Paid £470 (after £50 paypal offer and £50 CC cash back) for this. Was new sealed box manufactured April 2020. Got quad core Ryzen 5 pro, 8Gb RAM (not upgradeable but meh - it's fine for her), Radeon vega 8 graphics, 256Gb SSD, 1080p IPS screen, 4G LTE card installed (!), fingerprint reader, 3 years NBD service.
You do realize that's a Zen1 2500U (The only Ryzen5 with Vega 8; arguably a rebranded Ryzen3), right?
Every newer Ryzen5 had Vega 11, so there's a reason they were blowing them out... Ryzen, but not the Zen2 "secret sauce" Ryzen that has (shocking, even to me) actually lived up to the hype.
I mean, yeah, still a capable daily driver... but not sure I'd rather have it than my i7-6500U Lenovo Flex3-1580 for US$180 delivered a year ago.
Main difference I see is that my Flex3 was built when the processor was new, but yours was built when it was 3 year old. And the BL keyboard & touchscreen are sweet. I even like the "convertible" mode for certain things... like my daughter's school curriculum. BIG there.
mnem
It's not the manufacturers fault. The regulations on exhaust gas and fuel consumption is what forces the car companies to require so much monitoring, realtime engine adjustment and exhaust treatment systems. No car company wants a vehicle that has so much complexity that it keeps having issues. That just makes them look bad, even if they do profit from the repair.
McBryce.
It's not the manufacturers fault. The regulations on exhaust gas and fuel consumption is what forces the car companies to require so much monitoring, realtime engine adjustment and exhaust treatment systems. No car company wants a vehicle that has so much complexity that it keeps having issues. That just makes them look bad, even if they do profit from the repair.
McBryce.
No. Just NO. I lived and worked as a mechanic through the smog-strangled 80s, and while that WAS a low point in automobile manufacture... modern closed-loop EFI engines are just plain hands-down better, in every way. More efficient, more power per kilo, and because they aren't running with a crankcase full of carbon coke blowby from running rich half the time, the engines last longer almost in every application. Oil changes are cleaner at 5 and 10k intervals than a carbureted V8 was at 3K, and all that not-wasted oil and carcinogenic blowby waste is better for the environment too, not JUST the cleaner air.
Say what you want about the cars themselves, but design life for a iron-cylinder-wall V8 was 80K miles before it started to burn oil, and it required carb/ignition tuneups during that usage and the timing chain was running on borrowed time. Nowadays, if we don't get twice that from a 4-banger with nothing but regular oil changes, there's something fucking WRONG. I've seen with my own eyes cars running well with 160,000 on the original spark plugs!
I agree that the car companies have managed to turn OBD into a clusterfuck of software obfuscation... but that does NOT mean that OBD/OBDII was a bad idea. It just means that these bastards are such utterly selfish greedy shitheads they could fuck up a wet dream.
mnem
Did you know that Tek made an Engine Analyzer? Well, you do now. From the 1969 catalog. I don't think they sold too many of them. Look at the prices on the last page. Remember, that's 1969 dollars. It cost a fortune.
I'm sure if you were to find one today complete and functional it would be worth a King's ransom.
Did you know that Tek made an Engine Analyzer? Well, you do now. From the 1969 catalog. I don't think they sold too many of them. Look at the prices on the last page. Remember, that's 1969 dollars. It cost a fortune.
I'm sure if you were to find one today complete and functional it would be worth a King's ransom.
Are you sure those images are big enough at 10Mb a piece? Mate please, downside them a bit before linking to 50Mb of images just for one post.