I thought you won one of the 180 series SA mainframes, in the last PP auction, it should work in the SA mainframe, just some of the later ones haven't got the scope cal outputs, as they were made long after the scope modules became obsolete.
I'm I the only one on here with some 180 scopes in my collection?
David
I am tired and soon going to bed, so I will leave it at that.
QuoteIn fact I didn’t even use floppy disks back in the 90s. Had moved to Zip disks and CDRs.
Floppies are absolutely marvelous, I much prefer them to punch cards, sorry
I think you can make a pretty good argument for punchcards having an edge to the floppy in reliability. Mostly, I suspect, because no-one ever built punches, readers or reader/punches to a price; they were built to spec.
Floppies, not so much.
One could make a better more reliable floppy drive, potentially. Not the floppies' fault...
No, I still maintain floppies are much better.
How large and heavy would be a 1.4MB worth of punch cards ?
I bet it doesn't fit in your shirt pocket like a floppy would
And, once you have typed this metric ton of punch cards that amount to 1.4MB... run it through the computer and then it tells you sorry you made a mistake / typo, do it all over again... you are happy.
Floppy you can just correct your mistake in seconds.
How long does it take to punch holes for this 1.4MB worth of punch cards, versus a floppy drive ?
Yes, much longer... so long it's unpractical.
Sorry, floppy wins by several orders of magnitude.
The LeSiglent T3DSO2102 is my big Father's Day present from wife and dad
Yeah quite frankly fuck floppy disks. They were shit when they came out. Corruption, speed problems, reliability problems, tiny storage. Add 30 years to the problem and now you have mechanical and magnetic degradation to contend with.
Note I’m so high tech I had to go round someone’s house the other day and borrow their PC to put a CD-ROM contents on a USB stick. I don’t even have a CD drive now.
In fact I didn’t even use floppy disks back in the 90s. Had moved to Zip disks and CDRs.
I also moved over to zip discs, but sadly I also discovered that they also were far from being perfect, had a few mishaps along the way with those as well.
The LeSiglent T3DSO2102 is my big Father's Day present from wife and dadIIRC it's a SDS2102X with inbuilt 25 MHz AWG and 140 Mpts mem depth. You should be able to improve it to 300 MHz however it probably comes with 100 MHz switchable probes although it has autosense which IIRC will detect 10x and 100x probes.
I had the 300 MHz 4ch model for a few years and have a pile of FW versions for these although you might need some tv84 CFG magic to convert it back to a Siglent.
TinkerDwagon SQUEEEEE!!!!
I hopped on fleaBay to see if my 54621D had shipped yet... and my dashboard thwapped me upside the head with this alert!!!
w00t!
mnem
*toddles off to stalk the wily UPS driver*
Yeah quite frankly fuck floppy disks. They were shit when they came out. Corruption, speed problems, reliability problems, tiny storage.
Add 30 years to the problem and now you have mechanical and magnetic degradation to contend with.
Note I’m so high tech I had to go round someone’s house the other day and borrow their PC to put a CD-ROM contents on a USB stick. I don’t even have a CD drive now.
In fact I didn’t even use floppy disks back in the 90s. Had moved to Zip disks and CDRs.
Yeah quite frankly fuck floppy disks. They were shit when they came out. Corruption, speed problems, reliability problems, tiny storage. Add 30 years to the problem and now you have mechanical and magnetic degradation to contend with.
Note I’m so high tech I had to go round someone’s house the other day and borrow their PC to put a CD-ROM contents on a USB stick. I don’t even have a CD drive now.
In fact I didn’t even use floppy disks back in the 90s. Had moved to Zip disks and CDRs.
Floppies are absolutely marvelous, I much prefer them to punch cards, sorry
TinkerDwagon SQUEEEEE!!!!
I hopped on fleaBay to see if my 54621D had shipped yet... and my dashboard thwapped me upside the head with this alert!!! w00t!
mnem
*toddles off to stalk the wily UPS driver*
Nice, was a good deal Mine was apparently shipped today. But I don't see a tracking number so it's a little bit suspect.
Free. Just pay for shipping.
The grandboy was here the other day and smart little poo he is too but no idea about things rural ....scared of mud, cow poo and dogs FFS
FTP killed the ZIP drive in its only successful industry, printing. I'm not crying.
The grandboy was here the other day and smart little poo he is too but no idea about things rural ....scared of mud, cow poo and dogs FFS
Well if you will run at him to hug him while you're covered in all three of them I don't blame him.
...the outer carton is wadded up on one corner about a inch... I definitely want to take some photo documentation in case there's a nasty surprise.
mnem
The screen is effing huge and scary Hi-Res; feels the same as going to my 1054Zed after using a TDS210 for years.
mnem
I thought you won one of the 180 series SA mainframes, in the last PP auction, it should work in the SA mainframe, just some of the later ones haven't got the scope cal outputs, as they were made long after the scope modules became obsolete.
I'm I the only one on here with some 180 scopes in my collection?
David
It's really difficult to write a shopping list or a quick schematic on the back of a floppy disk.
FTP killed the ZIP drive in its only successful industry, printing. I'm not crying.
Not before Syquest drives had already done for them.
Still have CD driver in my computer, always will, need it to read all my old CDs and DVD, and every time I want to burn an ISO file to install a newer version of Linux.
USB sticks suck. My ex company gave me one when I signed up, containing some documents for me to read. Brand new key, there was a virus on it already. Tried to format it, didn't work. Tried to delete the partition, start from scratch, make a new partition, format that etc... a clean sheet. Didn't work, the partitioning utility failed to erase the existing partition, no explanation. Eventually I threw the stick in the garbage bin and that solved the problem. Low tech, but worked very well.
Never had that much problems with floppies back in the day, no more than I do with SD cards or USB sticks.
No, I still maintain floppies are much better.
That is because you are not comparing them to the state of the art. What people should do is to have their files on a networked drive. Compared to a networked file system the floppy drive and its media are slow, unreliable, insecure, and have puny capacity.
(of course, if you don't mind Someone Else reading that file (and I'm not talking about GENERAL ERROR ) you can outsource that part. Flipping the RO tab on a 3,5" diskette will take longer time than copying a 1,4MiB file over most networks built the last 20 years, so speed is not an issue. )
And yes, I'm jumping around with first comparing to punch cards, then networked file systems. Point is, that floppy drives and media are an all-time low in medium reliability, only underbid by the practice of storing files to compact cassettes as was popular on several home computers.
No, I still maintain floppies are much better.
That is because you are not comparing them to the state of the art. What people should do is to have their files on a networked drive. Compared to a networked file system the floppy drive and its media are slow, unreliable, insecure, and have puny capacity.
(of course, if you don't mind Someone Else reading that file (and I'm not talking about GENERAL ERROR ) you can outsource that part. Flipping the RO tab on a 3,5" diskette will take longer time than copying a 1,4MiB file over most networks built the last 20 years, so speed is not an issue. )
And yes, I'm jumping around with first comparing to punch cards, then networked file systems. Point is, that floppy drives and media are an all-time low in medium reliability, only underbid by the practice of storing files to compact cassettes as was popular on several home computers.
Well we don't all have our own servers, FTP site or whatever so when we want to transfer a small file it's either a 3rd party site or email which is not as secure as handing over physical media. With Microsoft trying to kill off CD's & DVDs if I want to transfer more than a few tens of megabytes e.g provide a manual with a bit of TE, it means buying several Gb of USB stick. And unless they are "branded" they are no more reliable than a quality CDR.
Maybe I'm just a luddite, but I don't like the idea of relying on my data (and if MS have their way software) being on someone elses hardware.